Albert Gary - charges reduced

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Where do you think Royce was when he stole the laptop?

Again- Royce White was convicted only of disorderly conduct on campus.
If some student was convicted of disorderly conduct on campus- little or not disciplinary action would be taken by the university.

Now if someone is convicted of a committing a felony on campus- goodbye.
 

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While this is true. Rhoads already knew what he was guilty of as Gary told him, and Rhoads suspended him. Nothing new came from this and in fact the charge was lowered. The suspension was served and he will be good to go.
happened on campus -- not CPRs call now that felony guilty verdict/plea is in (or will be later this month). Albert is about to have tea at The Knoll and then will be taking a vacation form ISU for a spell.
 

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Again- Royce White was convicted only of disorderly conduct on campus.
If some student was convicted of disorderly conduct on campus- little or not disciplinary action would be taken by the university.

Now if someone is convicted of a committing a felony on campus- goodbye.

Royce had two incidents. Two incidents that the AD of Minnesota thought shouldn't allow him back. We brought him to Iowa State and now we have a poster on this site trashing Gary while having a Royce White avatar. Pot meet Kettle.

I'm all for us bringing in Royce White and all for Gary getting a 2nd chance. We are Iowa State, we can't afford to part ways with talent.
 

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I agree he needs to go. I'm sure that BBgun looked like some real heat to the people who were held up.
ROTFLMAO! You do realize that it's not what it LOOKS like, but the actual THREAT to a person that matters, right? A whole bunch of stuff can look like something other than what it actually was--and the only thing that MATTERS is what it actually was.

Seriously. A bunch of football players are horsing around. Being STUPID. One of them takes it took far, playing whatever game they're playing, and acts like he's patting some guy down. I.E, "looking for weapons". That's what patting down is--by definition. It's a PRANK. A joke. A stupid one nonetheless, especially given current times--but at the same time, who is going to take this seriously, in broad daylight, in the middle of campus--in Ames, freaking Iowa? This is NOT New York, Chicago, or L.A--or even 6th Avenue in Des Moines.

It should have been treated as such. As a PRANK.

Instead, Campus Security (which has sought for the last thirty years to puff themselves up with fancy names) which STILL wants to justify carrying handguns on campus, wants to make an issue of it. And the County Attorney's office wants to make points with on how "tough" they are on "crime".

So they blow it out of proportion. Why? Because they can. After all, they have to do something to justify those unificent salaries--and there's no other ballgame in town.

Technically, by the letter of the law, this can be considered a felony. So they go out and push this, back the poor kid into a corner--where he is essentially taking the heat for several of his teammates as well--and give him a choice. Either you can plead to this, or go to trial--and not only risk the whole sentence, but accrue a whole bunch of expense in legal fees that you can't afford.

So, what does the kid do? He accepts the plea--and I don't know all of the terms, or possible priors (as Berryman had)--thinking that then he can get on with his life. After all, he DID do something boneheaded. Something wrong. He deserves to be punished. And they have him in a corner.

Perhaps that's his reasoning. I don't know. It's my best guess, as someone who was close to the court system in Ames for quite some time.

Honestly? I think this might have been a mistake on his part. Again, depending on the terms. Because if he had taken it to a jury trial, I am reasonably sure that a GOOD attorney could have gotten a jury to laugh at the idea of this being a felony.

But do you know what? GOOD attorneys, with the balls for that, are expensive--and they DON'T hand around Ames, Iowa. Or Iowa period, for that matter.

So, if all of you saints out there want to get down off of your high horses, you might want to take a moment to stop and think about some of the boneheaded things you have done--and what might have happened had you gotten caught, AND someone decided to take things out of context.

Oh wait--my apologies to those of us out there who are as pure as the driven snow...yeah, we know who you are.

Well, hey, I know that I'm not. And that's why I have some idea of what this kid is going through. As well a not only a little bit of empathy--but a little understanding.
 
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on campus,.... he was then suspended from that university ....... as he should have been. see you do get i!

No you don't. You jumped into a conversation midway. We at Iowa State take guys like Royce White. We are not above this like posters think.
 

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Royce had two incidents. Two incidents that the AD of Minnesota thought shouldn't allow him back. We brought him to Iowa State and now we have a poster on this site trashing Gary while having a Royce White avatar. Pot meet Kettle.
we all hope albert does as well as royce when he gets to his next university
 
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becasue i'm sure you and rhoads are on a daily talking thing about the condition of Cyclone Football.. uh huh.. why don't you do us all a huge favor and shut your damn mouth when it is pretty damn obvious you have no idea what is going on with the Albert Gary situation.
If he's practicing with the team it is pretty obvious he is still with the team and more than likely will be heading into fall camp.
 

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He wont be kicked off the team. Every single time there is a legal issue a bunch of posters grab their pitchforks and call for his head, and usually they are wrong. Especially in this case since he already served his suspension.
 

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what about "on campus" do people not get -- if you think the new prez is going to let this pass by ANY student, you are dreaming. Again, there is a major development in this case ........ he is now legally guilty (well officially later this month)!! A suspension from ISU and the team will happen. And it should.
Just to correct you--this is not true. Indeed, if he has no prior record, it seems likely that he would get a Deferred Judgment. Indeed, that's the only way that pleading guilty to a felony at this point makes any sense to me.

In a Deferred Judgment, he is put on probation for a certain period, then if the probation is completed successfully, the charge is automatically dismissed. I know that this might difficult for some people to understand, but that would mean that he has not been convicted of a felony.

Happy to help educate you! :yes:
 
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Just like we all hope Albert Pujols does as well for his next ball club.

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rebecacy

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becasue i'm sure you and rhoads are on a daily talking thing about the condition of Cyclone Football.. uh huh.. why don't you do us all a huge favor and shut your damn mouth when it is pretty damn obvious you have no idea what is going on with the Albert Gary situation.
If he's practicing with the team it is pretty obvious he is still with the team and more than likely will be heading into fall camp.
you seem very upset about this -- did you read post #68 first?
 

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Just to correct you--this is not true. Indeed, if he has no prior record, it seems likely that he would get a Deferred Judgment. Indeed, that's the only way that pleading guilty to a felony at this point makes any sense to me.

In a Deferred Judgment, he is put on probation for a certain period, then if the probation is completed successfully, the charge is automatically dismissed. I know that this might difficult for some people to understand, but that would mean that he has not been convicted of a felony.

Happy to help educate you! :yes:

QFT
 

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He wont be kicked off the team. Every single time there is a legal issue a bunch of posters grab their pitchforks and call for his head, and usually they are wrong. Especially in this case since he already served his suspension.

And if it was my child that was the target of the robbery, Gary would be gone. I would not stop until he was shown the door!
 

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Just to correct you--this is not true. Indeed, if he has no prior record, it seems likely that he would get a Deferred Judgment. Indeed, that's the only way that pleading guilty to a felony at this point makes any sense to me.

In a Deferred Judgment, he is put on probation for a certain period, then if the probation is completed successfully, the charge is automatically dismissed. I know that this might difficult for some people to understand, but that would mean that he has not been convicted of a felony.

Happy to help educate you! :yes:
i agree, if he receives a deferred judgement
 

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And if it was my child that was the target of the robbery, Gary would be gone. I would not stop until he was shown the door!
What robbery? I must have missed that. Did anyone actually see a robbery happen? Honestly, let's look at the particulars of the case.

And if your CHILD had been the victim, and had actually been robbed, i could see your outrage. But this was somebody's grown son, not a child, and it wasn't a robbery.

Stop blowing things out of proportion. Or do you work for the County Attorney's Office--or Campus Security?
 

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No you don't. You jumped into a conversation midway. We at Iowa State take guys like Royce White. We are not above this like posters think.

I think one of the differences between Gary and White is that one got kicked off for a year. If we decided to take Gary back in a year I wouldn't be opposed to it if we for sure thought he was going to keep clean. You can't, however, just ignore it.
 
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