Could the Cy-Hawk series be played every other year

yowza

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No JP realizes playing a Big Ten West team is a lose/lose situation for us from a national perception so he wanted to schedule an SEC team instead

Why doesn't JP hold a public press conference and state such things openly and allow for questions?
 

Halincandenza

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I don't think that is a bad idea for either school. Definitely would be interesting to have different Power 5 schools on the schedule. Could be good to to play a Power 5 team from an area ISU has been recruiting.
 

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If there is one thing I'm 100% sure of, its that JP has never cared what his decisions look like from a national perception. He does what is best for ISU and the Community, and selling out our stadium on top of a huge influx of people into Ames every other year for this game is a great thing. If you don't understand what this one game does for ticket sales as a whole in the years we play Iowa, then this argument is not worth having.

We'd sell out a game vs Arkansas in early September
 

CascadeClone

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This game literally prints money for both schools. There's no downside, especially with parity recently.

This. It also brings a skoosh of publicity nationally, for both programs and our lovely state. I get that millions of SEC fans don't wait up all night to watch this game, but at least it gets some "hey its CyHawk week again in Iowa!" from the talking heads... that isn't really the case for ISU vs Lafayette or Iowa vs Southern Illinois.
 
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VeloClone

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To answer the question in the thread title - yes it could but why would you? Others have mentioned 2 on 2 off but I don't thinks anyone has mentioned why that makes more sense than one year on and one year off. Iowa's schedule includes 5 home conference games the year they play in Ames and 4 conference home games the years this game is played in IC. Iowa State's schedule includes 5 home conference games the years they play in IC and 4 home conf games the years they play this game in Ames. So each team is guaranteed 5 home P5 games and 5 road P5 games every year. If you only play this game every other year this balance is ruined because it is doubtful your conference is going to totally upend the entire conference's schedule to cater to your rivalry. If you are adding another P5 game beyond this rivalry why do you need to disrupt the rivalry at all? Two on and two off could work, but why would you need to do it at all. If you want to play someone else, knock sisters of the poor off your schedule and play another P5.
 

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TIL that I could write for The Athletic.

But it’s the greatest collection of small market beat writers in the history of journalism writing much longer pieces that you have to pay for even if you’re only reading stories from 4 writers! Best invention since the microwave!
 
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But it’s the greatest collection of small market beat writers in the history of journalism writing much longer pieces that you have to pay for even if you’re only reading stories from 4 writers! Best invention since the microwave!

I think it's actually pretty cool, but they may have started to water down their intellectual base a bit.
 

Gunnerclone

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I think it's actually pretty cool, but they may have started to water down their intellectual base a bit.

Yes I agree it’s pretty good but I like to bash the true believers. it’s not like they’ve assembled the best of the best they’ve just assembled everyone without a job.
 
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DurangoCy

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I never said toughest opponent means we lost to them. I was using the Sagarin ranks for each team and listed the team with the best ranking that season.

What are you using for your list? ISU in 2014 was awful. And yes, I know Iowa lost to ISU that season.

Show your list, I gave mine. I'll also double down the 2014 dumpster fire of an ISU team that went into Kinnick and beat Iowa was better than a crappy Pitt team that played in the ACC and beat Delaware, Boston College, FIU, VT, Syracuse, and Miami . I don't believe for one second that you did anything besides look and see that ISU had beaten Iowa 3 times in the last 10 years.

Where are all of this great teams that Iowa was playing when they had 4 non-conference games earlier this decade? Pitt, Arizona, Northern Illinois, and North Dakota State were a murder's row that has now been replaced by Rutgers and Maryland.

So, poor Iowa can't schedule anyone good in the non-conference because they have to now play a good ISU team? Give me a break.
 

BLHawk

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Show your list, I gave mine. I'll also double down the 2014 dumpster fire of an ISU team that went into Kinnick and beat Iowa was better than a crappy Pitt team that played in the ACC and beat Delaware, Boston College, FIU, VT, Syracuse, and Miami . I don't believe for one second that you did anything besides look and see that ISU had beaten Iowa 3 times in the last 10 years.

Did you not read my post? I already gave you my list.

I am sure you can look up Sagarin's ratings for 2009-2018 to see the rankings for each OOC team Iowa played. My list literally listed the top OOC team for each year.

Pitt was ranked #61 by Sagarin in 2014, ISU was #105.

If you are not able to locate Sagarin's ratings, here they are:

You can just change the year with the drop down located at the top, right corner of the page.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2018/team/
 
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You just referred me to Sagarin, I want to see your actual list. I'm not doing your research for you, that's not how this works. ISU beat Iowa in 2014, no one else did, so that was the best team Iowa played in the non-conference.
 
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I will never get the mutual distaste some in both fan bases have for that game.

College football is about three things above all else...

Pageantry
Traditional
Rivalry

The game is fun even if I ******* hate the Hawks.

Fun trumps hate. Games against MAC teams are boring.
 

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Is there a rule in the Big 10 that teams cannot play more than 1 P5 opponent in the non-con? If not, go schedule a 2nd one if its that important to them. Florida and Clemson are playing 2 P5 opponents in their non-conference schedule; I'm sure there are other schools as well.
 

BLHawk

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You just referred me to Sagarin, I want to see your actual list. I'm not doing your research for you, that's not how this works. ISU beat Iowa in 2014, no one else did, so that was the best team Iowa played in the non-conference.

This doesn't make any sense.

Iowa was the best team OSU played all year in 2017 then since they throttled them by 31 points using that logic.
 
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[QUOTE="Nuts4Cy, post: 6743444, member:
.....Scott Dochterman from the Athletic has an article online today stating that "It’s frustrating for Iowa fans to watch their rivals compete against powerhouse Power-5 opponents while the Hawkeyes’ only major-conference foe every year is Iowa State."
[/QUOTE]

Looks like the Atlantic lets anybody write for them.