Current EV owners poll

When it comes time to replace your current BEV, do you plan on replacing it with another BEV


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BryceC

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To be fair though even without the BEV piece of their business Ford is the most recalled manufacturer there is right now. That's a big reason I switched over to driving Toyotas about 8 years ago.

I’ve said this before but the 2017 F150 I had was the crappiest new car with the most problems I’ve ever experienced. I like the idea of a lightening but not again.
 

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FWIW, AI says high percentage of BEV owners are satisfied and intend to stay with BEVs.

Me, I don't like putting money into vehicles, and would loath ever having to wait for a charge. So won't be buying a BEV any time soon. From enviro standpoint, I hear that they are better on carbon emissions (tailpipe vs. power-plant emissions), though battery recycling % is low and metals may be an issue.
 

mramseyISU

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I’ve said this before but the 2017 F150 I had was the crappiest new car with the most problems I’ve ever experienced. I like the idea of a lightening but not again.
I've driven a lightning a little and really like it but the quality issues Ford has right now scared me off. Maybe leasing one wouldn't be a terrible idea. Especially given how little I drive a year.
 
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dmclone

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Why are we using 'BEV' now instead of just 'EV'? Is there some other electric vehicle besides battery powered?
EV's include vehicles like plug in hybrids and hybrids that still have an ICE motor. BEV is 100% battery powered all the time.

When people worry about things like "I'm not sitting at a charger", they are talking about BEV's. When people talk about the advantages of EV's like no oil changes, less to go wrong, etc. they are talking about BEV's.
 

CascadeClone

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FWIW, AI says high percentage of BEV owners are satisfied and intend to stay with BEVs.

It makes a lot of sense really. If you bought a BEV, it was probably after considering your needs/driving habits, and figuring it would be a good fit. Then you get one, and indeed, it IS a good fit. So replacing with a BEV for the same needs would make sense, and you've added the confidence of experience to it.
 

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Why are we using 'BEV' now instead of just 'EV'? Is there some other electric vehicle besides battery powered?

I think it’s because hybrid and phev can get grouped in on EV. Hybrid almost never makes sense to group. PHEV has some aspects that can replicate EV experience like suddenly certain people only need to get gas 5 times a year but another person with same model might never plug it in.
 
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HFCS

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It makes a lot of sense really. If you bought a BEV, it was probably after considering your needs/driving habits, and figuring it would be a good fit. Then you get one, and indeed, it IS a good fit. So replacing with a BEV for the same needs would make sense, and you've added the confidence of experience to it.

This is all about the clearly bogus Edmunds “study” that is used to imply only 43% would buy an ev again. It’s clearly wildly false propaganda, we cannot get a single story from anyone and the other megathread has exactly one that is lukewarm rather than “never”.

That 43% satisfaction number is being used in the dumbest areas of social media as if it’s a hard fact and it’s totally ludicrous.
 

TitanClone

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FWIW, AI says high percentage of BEV owners are satisfied and intend to stay with BEVs.

Me, I don't like putting money into vehicles, and would loath ever having to wait for a charge. So won't be buying a BEV any time soon. From enviro standpoint, I hear that they are better on carbon emissions (tailpipe vs. power-plant emissions), though battery recycling % is low and metals may be an issue.
You'd get used to the re-charge time and it only comes into play on long trips. Day to day your tank is never empty since you plug in at home.
 

1100011CS

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I think it’s because hybrid and phev can get grouped in on EV. Hybrid almost never makes sense to group. PHEV has some aspects that can replicate EV experience like suddenly certain people only need to get gas 5 times a year but another person with same model might never plug it in.
So, hybrid = ICE charges battery, PHEV = plug in battery with ICE backup, BEV = battery only. EV includes all. That about right?
 
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dmclone

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So, hybrid = ICE charges battery, PHEV = plug in battery with ICE backup, BEV = battery only. EV includes all. That about right?
From Gemini:

There are four main types of electric vehicles (EVs):
1. Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs)
  • These are the most common type of EV, powered solely by an electric battery.

  • BEVs have a longer range than plug-in hybrids and are more environmentally friendly.
  • Popular BEVs include the Tesla Model 3, Nissan Leaf, and Chevrolet Bolt.
2. Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEVs)
  • PHEVs have both an electric motor and a gasoline engine.

  • They can be plugged in to charge the battery, or they can use the gasoline engine to generate electricity.
  • PHEVs have a shorter range than BEVs but are more fuel-efficient.
  • Popular PHEVs include the Chevrolet Volt, Toyota Prius Prime, and Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid.
3. Hybrid Electric Vehicles (HEVs)
  • HEVs also have both an electric motor and a gasoline engine, but the battery is smaller and cannot be plugged in.

  • The electric motor assists the gasoline engine, improving fuel efficiency.
  • HEVs are not as fuel-efficient as PHEVs or BEVs.
  • Popular HEVs include the Toyota Camry Hybrid, Honda Accord Hybrid, and Ford Escape Hybrid.
4. Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEVs)
  • FCEVs use a fuel cell to generate electricity, which powers the electric motor.

  • FCEVs have a longer range than BEVs and can be refueled quickly, like a gasoline car.
  • However, there are fewer hydrogen fueling stations available than electric charging stations.
  • Popular FCEVs include the Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo.
My own opinion. #4 looks to be about dead when it comes to passenger cars. Super long range is possible but so many other issues. Toyota was promoting these pretty hard for a number of years but I think they've even came around to reality.
 
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RedlineSi

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My wife still hasn't figured out the concept of charging her phone while sleeping and it's always dead. No way she'll be getting a BEV anytime soon.
My wife's problem is not filling up her Hybrid with gas when its low, then having a latenight or early morning shift at the hospital and getting angry she has to stop at the gas station.

This last time, I just said take the Rivian, its charged. :)

Will be much better when she gets hers.
 
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dmclone

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My wife still hasn't figured out the concept of charging her phone while sleeping and it's always dead. No way she'll be getting a BEV anytime soon.
You nailed it. There are certain people where it just won't work. My MIL sits the phone right by here bed, where there is a wireless charger, which she forgets to use.......
 
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