Current EV owners poll

When it comes time to replace your current BEV, do you plan on replacing it with another BEV


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dmclone

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So, did all of you EV owners get some rebates or tax incentives? Are there any still in effect?
Tesla Model Y LR $7,500 Tax rebate when I did my taxes last year I think this year they can take it right off the price.

It's only a few EV's that qualify.
The Treasury Department’s official list of eligible vehicles shows that the following vehicles qualify for a full $7,500 tax credit if placed in service between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 of 2024:


  • Acura ZDX EV (2024 models years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Cadillac Lyriq (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Blazer EV (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Bolt and Bolt EUV (2022 and 2023 model years, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Equinox EV (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid PHEV (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Ford F-150 Lightning (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Honda Prologue (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model 3 Performance (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model X Long Range (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model Y All-Wheel Drive (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below); Performance (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below); and Rear-Wheel Drive (2024 model year only, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Volkswagen ID.4 standard, S, Pro S Plus, Pro S, Pro, AWD Pro, AWD Pro S, and AWD Pro S Plus (most 2023 and 2024 model year with SK On battery components, MSRP $80,000 or below)
The Cadillac Lyriq, Chevy Blazer EV, and Honda Prologue all share the same body design and battery technology. Don't be thrown off by the "$80k or below". For example, the most sold car in the world, Tesla MY, is in the low 40's after rebate.
 
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Tesla Model Y LR $7,500 Tax rebate when I did my taxes last year I think this year they can take it right off the price.

It's only a few EV's that qualify.
The Treasury Department’s official list of eligible vehicles shows that the following vehicles qualify for a full $7,500 tax credit if placed in service between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 of 2024:


  • Acura ZDX EV (2024 models years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Cadillac Lyriq (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Blazer EV (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Bolt and Bolt EUV (2022 and 2023 model years, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Equinox EV (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid PHEV (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Ford F-150 Lightning (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Honda Prologue (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model 3 Performance (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model X Long Range (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model Y All-Wheel Drive (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below); Performance (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below); and Rear-Wheel Drive (2024 model year only, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Volkswagen ID.4 standard, S, Pro S Plus, Pro S, Pro, AWD Pro, AWD Pro S, and AWD Pro S Plus (most 2023 and 2024 model year with SK On battery components, MSRP $80,000 or below)
The Cadillac Lyriq, Chevy Blazer EV, and Honda Prologue all share the same body design and battery technology. Don't be thrown off by the "$80k or below". For example, the most sold car in the world, Tesla MY, is in the low 40's after rebate.
In general, hybrids are not included in these incentives? I'm thinking of the Ford Maverick specifically.
 

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So, did all of you EV owners get some rebates or tax incentives? Are there any still in effect?
We got the $7,500.

If you paid for EV charger installation there's a credit for that as well that a significant number of people aren't aware of.
 

dmclone

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In general, hybrids are not included in these incentives? I'm thinking of the Ford Maverick specifically.
The following vehicles qualify for a partial $3,750 tax credit if placed in service between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 of 2024:

  • Audi Q5 PHEV (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Ford Escape Plug-In Hybrid (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Jeep Wrangler 4xe (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Nissan Leaf (2024 model year, sold on or after March 6, 2024, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Rivian R1S and R1T (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
My understanding is that the Maverick has too small of battery to qualify

Also, used EV's can have credits as well. Also, some leases as well.

Some states also have additional credits. I've heard people in Colorado get super deals on some models.
 
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Not exactly sure.
The last place you actually need them, is in your own town.
It’s the psychological part. People look at their area and extrapolate it as all encompassing. Your town doesn’t really have many so they must not be common and I’d I drive to a town X far away will I be able to find them. Like i80 in Nevada. You stop at any gas station you see when you hit half a tank because you see several boarded up as you drive.
 
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FWIW, AI says high percentage of BEV owners are satisfied and intend to stay with BEVs.

Me, I don't like putting money into vehicles, and would loath ever having to wait for a charge. So won't be buying a BEV any time soon. From enviro standpoint, I hear that they are better on carbon emissions (tailpipe vs. power-plant emissions), though battery recycling % is low and metals may be an issue.
That liquid ATM though...

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Tesla Model Y LR $7,500 Tax rebate when I did my taxes last year I think this year they can take it right off the price.

It's only a few EV's that qualify.
The Treasury Department’s official list of eligible vehicles shows that the following vehicles qualify for a full $7,500 tax credit if placed in service between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 of 2024:


  • Acura ZDX EV (2024 models years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Cadillac Lyriq (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Blazer EV (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Bolt and Bolt EUV (2022 and 2023 model years, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Chevrolet Equinox EV (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid PHEV (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Ford F-150 Lightning (2022 through 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Honda Prologue (2024 model year, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model 3 Performance (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $55,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model X Long Range (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Tesla Model Y All-Wheel Drive (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below); Performance (2023 and 2024 model years, MSRP $80,000 or below); and Rear-Wheel Drive (2024 model year only, MSRP $80,000 or below)
  • Volkswagen ID.4 standard, S, Pro S Plus, Pro S, Pro, AWD Pro, AWD Pro S, and AWD Pro S Plus (most 2023 and 2024 model year with SK On battery components, MSRP $80,000 or below)
The Cadillac Lyriq, Chevy Blazer EV, and Honda Prologue all share the same body design and battery technology. Don't be thrown off by the "$80k or below". For example, the most sold car in the world, Tesla MY, is in the low 40's after rebate.
Which is why the leasing is up on other brands, it’s treated with corporate rules which are more lax.
 

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That liquid ATM though...

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I took the comment to mean he didn't like to spend lots of money on any vehicle. e.g. If you wanted to pay <$10k for a sedan, there's plenty of ICE that are older in that price range, but not really any EVs yet.

That's generally my preference too, avoid depreciation and buy used. Until I bought a nearly-new 4Runner a couple years ago, I'd never paid more than $17k for a vehicle (12 vehicles over ~30 years).
 
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i put 46k on my 2023 f150 last year. don't think ev gonna work well for me
 

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i put 46k on my 2023 f150 last year. don't think ev gonna work well for me
Just to play devils advocate, that’s still only 129 miles per day on average.
How often do you drive over 300 miles in a single day?

Also, assuming you got about 20 miles per gallon, at $3.50/gallon gas, you spent about $8000 in gas

Lightning gets about 2.5 miles per kWh.
Google says MidAmerican charges $0.13 per kWh. If I’m doing the math right, that’s about $2000 to charge and drive the Lightning.

Then add in another 5 oil changes for your ICE, at probably at least $100/service.

Not life changing cost differences but $5000+ per year would be nice.


Edit - just saw your follow up. Yah would be tough for you.. ha
 

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So, did all of you EV owners get some rebates or tax incentives? Are there any still in effect?

The tax credits come and goes over the past few years depending on model but over the past 6 months it was pretty easy to get on most if not all models. There were also some crazy good lease deals on some models but seems to be getting more rare.

Don't want to political cave the thread but I wouldn't wait until 2025 if you really want tax credit if you get what I'm saying and it might be part of why a certain rich guy is doing certain things. The tricky thing is some dealers build the tax credit into advertised price and some do not. Even worse some (Tesla) build $100/month fuel savings into their lease deals and most do not. I'm sure it helps them sell leases to add that fuel savings but for most drivers they're actually going to save quite a bit more than $100/mo on fuel so it's almost misleading in a bad way for EV shoppers.
 

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FWIW, AI says high percentage of BEV owners are satisfied and intend to stay with BEVs.

Me, I don't like putting money into vehicles, and would loath ever having to wait for a charge. So won't be buying a BEV any time soon. From enviro standpoint, I hear that they are better on carbon emissions (tailpipe vs. power-plant emissions), though battery recycling % is low and metals may be an issue.

My longest wait to charge has been 11 min. Dealing with 1 oil change is waiting longer than the entire sum of my waiting for a charge.
 

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From Gemini:

There are four main types of electric vehicles (EVs):
1. Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs)
  • These are the most common type of EV, powered solely by an electric battery.

  • BEVs have a longer range than plug-in hybrids and are more environmentally friendly.
  • Popular BEVs include the Tesla Model 3, Nissan Leaf, and Chevrolet Bolt.
2. Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEVs)
  • PHEVs have both an electric motor and a gasoline engine.

  • They can be plugged in to charge the battery, or they can use the gasoline engine to generate electricity.
  • PHEVs have a shorter range than BEVs but are more fuel-efficient.
  • Popular PHEVs include the Chevrolet Volt, Toyota Prius Prime, and Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid.
3. Hybrid Electric Vehicles (HEVs)
  • HEVs also have both an electric motor and a gasoline engine, but the battery is smaller and cannot be plugged in.

  • The electric motor assists the gasoline engine, improving fuel efficiency.
  • HEVs are not as fuel-efficient as PHEVs or BEVs.
  • Popular HEVs include the Toyota Camry Hybrid, Honda Accord Hybrid, and Ford Escape Hybrid.
4. Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEVs)
  • FCEVs use a fuel cell to generate electricity, which powers the electric motor.

  • FCEVs have a longer range than BEVs and can be refueled quickly, like a gasoline car.
  • However, there are fewer hydrogen fueling stations available than electric charging stations.
  • Popular FCEVs include the Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo.
My own opinion. #4 looks to be about dead when it comes to passenger cars. Super long range is possible but so many other issues. Toyota was promoting these pretty hard for a number of years but I think they've even came around to reality.

I actually live near a fuel cell hydrogen station, pretty sure CA and SoCall specifically are only place they exist and they aren't common here even. When I rarely see someone using it, it'll most often be some sort of industrial vehicle.
 
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