Dak calling out refs

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I’m having a hard time understanding what’s controversial about the end of that game. It was over when Dak decided to run the play before. The official got in there to spot the ball faster than they normally would, and there still wasn’t enough time because he slid with 8 seconds left.

If anything, the official should’ve taken more time to spot the ball accurately. It was only close because he did them a solid and just touched the ball without backing up to where the slide started.
As a Vikings fan living in DFW metro it is so sweet listening to all the Cowboys fans and media whining about the refs. They just are an average team that beat up on a weak division
 

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This was exactly what I said last night during the game. Go down a few years earlier and clock wouldn't have run out.

They might have had enough time even with where Dak went down had they actually been paying attention and made room for the referee to come in and place the ball. Instead they were all set up to snap and the referee had to force his way through, probably taking a couple extra seconds off the clock.
 

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Dak should've tried to bulldoze his way out of bounds or even tried to score vs. what he did. That may have been the dumbest play I've ever seen run in NFL, which as a 49ers fan was awesome. The assumption that the Cowgirls would've somehow have scored from the 25 yard line with one play is also Ludacris.

So happy that they're just whining about the refs, because that tells me all I need to know about Dak and McCarthy.
 

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Not sure why everyone calling the play so dumb.

They were on the 40 yard line, SF had 6 players on the sideline, they could not run an out route and there was 15 seconds left. Their chance of a hail mary is maybe 2-5% successful. If he can pick up 15 yards, spike ball - and then run a play from the 25 yard line, i'd guess that odds of a successful TD are 4-5x higher. They don't have the time to run any play short of the end zone either.

It didn't work out... but neither would a hail mary. Perfect execution and it probably would have.

For Cowboys to blame the refs though is stupid. The penalties were just dumb, dumb penalties. Randy Gregory probably holds 4 of the top 5 dumb penalities in Cowboy history.
 

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Not sure why everyone calling the play so dumb.

They were on the 40 yard line, SF had 6 players on the sideline, they could not run an out route and there was 15 seconds left. Their chance of a hail mary is maybe 2-5% successful. If he can pick up 15 yards, spike ball - and then run a play from the 25 yard line, i'd guess that odds of a successful TD are 4-5x higher. They don't have the time to run any play short of the end zone either.

It didn't work out... but neither would a hail mary. Perfect execution and it probably would have.

For Cowboys to blame the refs though is stupid. The penalties were just dumb, dumb penalties. Randy Gregory probably holds 4 of the top 5 dumb penalities in Cowboy history.
I don't think the play call was a good idea, but I wouldn't say it was terrible either. The execution was no doubt just plain awful. Dak and the center HAVE to know the ref needs to set the ball. That has been a rule since the beginning of football. They screwed that up and have no one else to blame it on but themselves.

Hindsight is definitely 20/20, but I would have taken two shots at the endzone from the 40 over what they did. Especially that first play when SF had the sidelines on lockdown, there's a decent chance they could've gotten a 1 on 1 matchup in the endzone, and who knows, maybe a PI call.
 

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The refs weren't on it that's for sure but Dallas sucked all game. That's coming from a 30+ year Cowboys fan
 

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I’ve often wondered why in late game situations when the middle of the field is open teams don’t complete it over the middle then throw a lateral out of bounds to stop the clock. Is that illegal?
 
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Not sure why everyone calling the play so dumb.

They were on the 40 yard line, SF had 6 players on the sideline, they could not run an out route and there was 15 seconds left. Their chance of a hail mary is maybe 2-5% successful. If he can pick up 15 yards, spike ball - and then run a play from the 25 yard line, i'd guess that odds of a successful TD are 4-5x higher. They don't have the time to run any play short of the end zone either.

It didn't work out... but neither would a hail mary. Perfect execution and it probably would have.

For Cowboys to blame the refs though is stupid. The penalties were just dumb, dumb penalties. Randy Gregory probably holds 4 of the top 5 dumb penalities in Cowboy history.

Everything I've seen from the post game analysis stated that it takes 16-18 seconds to for an NFL team to run play in the field of play, get up to the line, and down it. For Dallas to assume that they could do so with 14 seconds, either means they know something every other NFL team doesn't know, or they were idiots. ...the results seem to indicate the later.

That said, they still weren't going to win the game, but to me running a play that ends the game is inexcusable. This is Paul Rhoads not knowing that he could down the football to win vs. KSU in 2015 bad imho.
 

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I’ve often wondered why in late game situations when the middle of the field is open teams don’t complete it over the middle then throw a lateral out of bounds to stop the clock. Is that illegal?

That happened in one of the games yesterday, but not on purpose. I can't remember which one though. That's pretty smart, stick a guy over there and "pretend" to miss.
 

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Everything I've seen from the post game analysis stated that it takes 16-18 seconds to for an NFL team to run play in the field of play, get up to the line, and down it. For Dallas to assume that they could do so with 14 seconds, either means they know something every other NFL team doesn't know, or they were idiots. ...the results seem to indicate the later.

That said, they still weren't going to win the game, but to me running a play that ends the game is inexcusable. This is Paul Rhoads not knowing that he could down the football to win vs. KSU in 2015 bad imho.

I think it's a bit different in this situation for the time necessary. I assume when commentators were saying that, they were referring to a more normal play, with receivers running deeper routes, etc. The QB draw was such that all of the offense was already running to the line as the play was happening, and was set to spike quickly. Had they made it easier for the referee or downed it a bit earlier, they probably would have had it, even with only 14 seconds.

Frankly, with the timeout beforehand, they probably also should have warned the referee that they were going to do that, so they'd be more prepared to place the ball.
 

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Nobody is talking about the fact that they still had to score on the next play and based on the previous 59 minutes, I have a hard time believing that the Cowboys wouldn't have committed some boneheaded penalty to **** it up.
 

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I think it's a bit different in this situation for the time necessary. I assume when commentators were saying that, they were referring to a more normal play, with receivers running deeper routes, etc. The QB draw was such that all of the offense was already running to the line as the play was happening, and was set to spike quickly. Had they made it easier for the referee or downed it a bit earlier, they probably would have had it, even with only 14 seconds.

Frankly, with the timeout beforehand, they probably also should have warned the referee that they were going to do that, so they'd be more prepared to place the ball.

There's no way I'm running that play, needing all of that to go right with just 14 seconds left.
I guess that's why I'm not the Dallas Cowboys' coach though.
 

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As far as the final play call goes-- Tony Romo correctly predicted 'anything to middle and the game's over'. Too bad for the Cowboys he wasn't on the sideline.

Romo was all over Dak's mistake at the end of the game saying he has to know to hand the ball to the ref and not his center in that situation. No one to blame but the coaches that called the play and Dak for not taking charge and giving them a change to stop the clock by exciting better. Could have went down sooner or try to get out of bounds too. Another classic choke job by an over hyped Cowboys team.
 
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Whenever a game has a questionable coaching decision, I always ask myself: "If I were a fan of the other team, what would I NOT want them do, and what would I WANT them to do."

What WOULD a 49ers fan want them to do with 14 seconds left? Run the ball.

What would the 49ers NOT want them to do? Take two attempts at a hail mary. That would scare the hell out of any fan.

Obviously the 1st hail mary could be intercepted. But, having to defend a single hail mary is scary enough.