Death to Cyclone Alley!

CynadoAlley

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The problem has to do a lot more with the "too-cool-for-school" crowd than anything else. I'm with everyone else, CAC is pointless, and does nothing more than put something on someones resume, but they don't enforce rules or anything like that. Basically they just stand there, and that's all they do (in their reserved seats that they don't deserve), which I know aides an argument that the organization doesn't even need to exist, but it doesn't exactly say that they hinder the students from being rowdy.

In an ideal world, there would be no Cyclone Alley organization, students would show up in full force, and the place would be rowdy all game long. However, the university has the final say, and I'm sure they see absolutely nothing wrong with the group (though they obviously care about the attendance). Additionally, the elimination of cyclone alley is not going to do anything to help get the casual student fans into the action. The sorority girl crowd that only goes because their freshman pledges saved them seats, the "bros" that go in their tanks just to get on the flex-cam, the kids that only dig their face out of their phones when the camera is on them, and the huge number of students who look at the kids who are actually screaming and jumping around as if they are from another planet are not going to give two ***** about whether or not there's a group of students who are supposedly "in charge".

Again, I think CAC is COMPLETELY pointless, and I don't see the purpose of it other than the fact that the university wants it there, but whether or not it exists at all should have absolutely no impact on student attendance or student enthusiasm.
 
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Sorry, as an ISU Alum, I just could not pass on responding to the following:

"As a student, I've never once heard another student suggest they would go to more games or be more rowdier if CA did not exist. And my guess is the cost of student tickets will stay the same regardless of student tickets...???"

What, in the name of Freshman English, is your point? ...just "bustin' yer chops...at least you have the passion to post! GO CYCLONES!

lol
 
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Thomasrickj

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When I was watching the game today and they zoomed in on the student section, half of them were looking down at their phones instead of watching the game. What is wrong with the students now?! Cyclone Alley was also horrible and pointless when I was a student there (graduated in 2009), and just feels like a resume booster for some prissy kids that want to pad their resumes.
 

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When I was watching the game today and they zoomed in on the student section, half of them were looking down at their phones instead of watching the game. What is wrong with the students now?!

Sorry, was busy playing flappy bird. :jimlad: (I actually was playing until about 5 minutes prior to tip, but once the game started, phone went away, except during a few time outs to check the KU score.)
 

tm3308

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Answer your phone and you'll know what they do.

I'm so glad I don't have a home phone number and have a new cell number. The longer I can avoid the money-grubbing calls from the UI Foundation, the better.
 

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That was also over a decade ago. Student attendance was great from the days of Johnny through the Jamaal Tinsley years. Since then times have changed. And surprisingly, Iowa State's student attendance is high compared to the rest of the country. I don't understand the purpose of Cyclone Alley, but there is no reason to believe that getting rid of the name, etc. will in any way change the student attendance and general tone of the student section. As a student, I've never once heard another student suggest they would go to more games or be more rowdier if CA did not exist.

And my guess is the cost of student tickets will stay the same regardless of student tickets. No reason to lower it based on how quickly students buy tickets each spring/summer.

It was not that long ago. As a student who got to experience no CA, half CA, and all CA, I can say the student section was a hell of a lot more fun without CA.
 

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I would assume that CA drives some students away from coming to games. you know the RA's in the dorms that you dont like? you essentially have those at basketball games now too with the CA leaders. that and the fact that you have to have your special members only shirt, is going to discourage some people from going. at the same time it may get some people that wouldnt go otherwise to go, but I would guess it drives more away than it brings in. I think for big games like uofM, Iowa, KU its worth it for some people to deal with the CA stuff that dont like it, then for less appealing games they dont show up because they aren't a fan of it.

one side of the court needs to be the CA kids and those that are into that. the other side should be general student admission. that right there would settle this on it's own. if one side is more full than the other all the time, obviously that's the way things should be. i think it could actually create a little bit of "rivalry" if you will amongst students attending games to see which group can be louder and rowdier.
 

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It was not that long ago. As a student who got to experience no CA, half CA, and all CA, I can say the student section was a hell of a lot more fun without CA.

this is my opinion as well. CA was created my sophomore year I believe.
 

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It was not that long ago. As a student who got to experience no CA, half CA, and all CA, I can say the student section was a hell of a lot more fun without CA.

I was also a student during the transition years, and I completely agree that it was better without CA. And it wasn't even close.
 

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I would assume that CA drives some students away from coming to games. you know the RA's in the dorms that you dont like? you essentially have those at basketball games now too with the CA leaders. that and the fact that you have to have your special members only shirt, is going to discourage some people from going. at the same time it may get some people that wouldnt go otherwise to go, but I would guess it drives more away than it brings in. I think for big games like uofM, Iowa, KU its worth it for some people to deal with the CA stuff that dont like it, then for less appealing games they dont show up because they aren't a fan of it.

one side of the court needs to be the CA kids and those that are into that. the other side should be general student admission. that right there would settle this on it's own. if one side is more full than the other all the time, obviously that's the way things should be. i think it could actually create a little bit of "rivalry" if you will amongst students attending games to see which group can be louder and rowdier.
You haven't had to have a shirt for a couple years now. Do you even watch our games on TV to notice?

I'm not defending Cyclone Alley, and I agree that the less structure there is, the more students will want to be there. But I'm tired of it being the scapegoat for lack of student interest in our basketball team.

Do you really think students are like...

"Dude, we play Kansas today... Should we go or should we stay home because Cyclone Alley sucks?"

"Well... It's Kansas, so let's go."

and

"Dude, we play Oklahoma today... Should we go or should we stay home?"

"Well, it's only Oklahoma... So since Cyclone Alley sucks, let's stay home."
 
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CA isn't the reason for 1000 students not showing up to these games. Could it be for a few? Absolutely. But if you got rid of it, I would bet the increase in attendance for these non-KU/OSU conference games wouldn't be noticeable.
 

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I would assume that CA drives some students away from coming to games. you know the RA's in the dorms that you dont like? you essentially have those at basketball games now too with the CA leaders. that and the fact that you have to have your special members only shirt, is going to discourage some people from going. at the same time it may get some people that wouldnt go otherwise to go, but I would guess it drives more away than it brings in. I think for big games like uofM, Iowa, KU its worth it for some people to deal with the CA stuff that dont like it, then for less appealing games they dont show up because they aren't a fan of it.

one side of the court needs to be the CA kids and those that are into that. the other side should be general student admission. that right there would settle this on it's own. if one side is more full than the other all the time, obviously that's the way things should be. i think it could actually create a little bit of "rivalry" if you will amongst students attending games to see which group can be louder and rowdier.

I'm a Sophomore and they haven't done the members only shirt since I've been here. I'm not sure if they did in 2011-2012 or not.
 

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It was not that long ago. As a student who got to experience no CA, half CA, and all CA, I can say the student section was a hell of a lot more fun without CA.
I would have to agree with this. I was in middle school during the Wayne Morgan days and went to games frequently and I remember the student section being a whole lot rowdier then. Plus I remember walking in and the student section always being full with about 30 minutes before tip and not seeing a mass of empty seats. I just don't get it because our team is so much better now than it was for the WM days.
 

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ISU does an absolutely horrible job of marketing MBB to students, in my humble opinion.
 
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awd4cy

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Please explain what CA does that makes it less fun?
The hand waving thing is about the only thing I can think of. Wow is that lame. We don't need stupid wilson toyota signs making people wave their arms a certain way which usually happens too late anyways.
 

Luth4Cy

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The hand waving thing is about the only thing I can think of. Wow is that lame. We don't need stupid wilson toyota signs making people wave their arms a certain way which usually happens too late anyways.

I agree, that probably doesn't keep students from coming to games though.