DG PT ???

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...Give the kid a chance.

I love when that's said about a senior. :jimlad:

I think Diante showed a lot of improvement both from last year and this year as conference play went on. This year his A/T and shooting stats came around and I liked his aggression. My biggest problem wasn't anything captured by stats--the missed opportunities. In my opinion he's a great basketball player even a solid ball handler, but not necessarily a great point guard. He seemed to spend too much time dribbling with his back to the basket and didn't hit the open man down low with a crisp pass until it was too late and the help defense was there. I never thought Colvin was as great as some said, but I will say some of his TO's seemed to be the result of his teammates not being used to getting the ball so they didn't expect the pass. Maybe it was the system, but I just didn't see the ability to create out of DG that a point guard should have.

But I also think that point guard is a dying position, at least in its traditional sense.
 
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I agree with DG losing minutes... I think he is a great point guard when he doesn't shoot much, the beginning of the year DG was mostly about passing he avg. 7 assists and 7 points when we were 6-1 with only one of those games he had he shots in double digits as he avg.only 3 shoots a game and only 2 3 points attempted in those 7 games... then he decided that he needed to shoot more as the next game nothern iowa he shot 14 times including 6 3 pointers with only 4 assists... DG just needs to sit back and set the others guys up goal for DG avg. 8 assits this year and we will be a lot better if he worries about passing rather than shooting... And for the people saying he has guys to help him this year... well I am pretty sure he had a few guys who are better than these guys last year... hmm maybe Brackins... Gilstrap?? Lucca
 

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I agree with DG losing minutes... I think he is a great point guard when he doesn't shoot much, the beginning of the year DG was mostly about passing he avg. 7 assists and 7 points when we were 6-1 with only one of those games he had he shots in double digits as he avg.only 3 shoots a game and only 2 3 points attempted in those 7 games... then he decided that he needed to shoot more as the next game nothern iowa he shot 14 times including 6 3 pointers with only 4 assists... DG just needs to sit back and set the others guys up goal for DG avg. 8 assits this year and we will be a lot better if he worries about passing rather than shooting... And for the people saying he has guys to help him this year... well I am pretty sure he had a few guys who are better than these guys last year... hmm maybe Brackins... Gilstrap?? Lucca

Just gonna say, I agree he had talent around him, but he sure as hell didn't have a good coach to execute things with that talent.
 

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I love when that's said about a senior. :jimlad:

I think Diante showed a lot of improvement both from last year and this year as conference play went on. This year his A/T and shooting stats came around and I liked his aggression. My biggest problem wasn't anything captured by stats--the missed opportunities. In my opinion he's a great basketball player even a solid ball handler, but not necessarily a great point guard. He seemed to spend too much time dribbling with his back to the basket and didn't hit the open man down low with a crisp pass until it was too late and the help defense was there. I never thought Colvin was as great as some said, but I will say some of his TO's seemed to be the result of his teammates not being used to getting the ball so they didn't expect the pass. Maybe it was the system, but I just didn't see the ability to create out of DG that a point guard should have.

I agree totally! You articulated my thoughts very well sir.
 

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I love when that's said about a senior. :jimlad:

I think Diante showed a lot of improvement both from last year and this year as conference play went on. This year his A/T and shooting stats came around and I liked his aggression. My biggest problem wasn't anything captured by stats--the missed opportunities. In my opinion he's a great basketball player even a solid ball handler, but not necessarily a great point guard. He seemed to spend too much time dribbling with his back to the basket and didn't hit the open man down low with a crisp pass until it was too late and the help defense was there. I never thought Colvin was as great as some said, but I will say some of his TO's seemed to be the result of his teammates not being used to getting the ball so they didn't expect the pass. Maybe it was the system, but I just didn't see the ability to create out of DG that a point guard should have.

But I also think that point guard is a dying position, at least in its traditional sense.
He had to dribble so much because our offense did nothing to get guys open. I'm sure he could have driven to the basket instead of waiting for things to develop but then everybody just would have called him a ball hog.
Colvin's turnovers were the result of a guy playing out of control.
 

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He had to dribble so much because our offense did nothing to get guys open. I'm sure he could have driven to the basket instead of waiting for things to develop but then everybody just would have called him a ball hog.
Colvin's turnovers were the result of a guy playing out of control.

I guess that's what I mean by him needing to create. Things like driving and dishing, controlling the tempo, getting guys open by drawing the defense... There are more than the two options of dribbling, back to the basket at the top of the key and being a ball hog. Again, I don't think the system helped at all, but there were plenty of times guys were open but a sharp pass was replaced by a lob.

And yes, I didn't blame ALL of Colvin's TO's on guys not being ready for the ball. That's why I used the word "some" in my example.
 

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Its really hard to predict how DG will adjust to an up tempo style offense after being restricted for the past 3 years. Looking at it you would think his style of play is better suited for an up tempo game but its just not that easy for a player to adjust to an entirely new style of offense.

If he adjusts well and continues to grow as a player I think he could have a very good year and quite possibly be looked at by the NBA.

My guess is that he continues to be what he is now, which is a solid Big 12 starter, nothing too flashy. He may see a slight drop in minutes, but only due to the more talented depth he will have behind him this year in Anderson and Philips.

I dont see why there should be a huge argument about Garret not playing as much this next year. All it means is that we have better players at the position than we did last year. A battle for minutes is never a bad thing. Things are looking a lot better than they were a couple months ago.
 

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DG was playing better than anyone else on the team at the end of last season. He will start and he will probably be our best player. When he's playing with confidence, he's pretty nasty with the ball in his hands.
 

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IF (and it's a big one) we have two bigs that can hold the fort inside, I could see DG doing well in a three guard set-up. He's going to look different freed from the molasses offense we were running, that's for sure.
 

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DG will have his best season yet. Phillips and Anderson are strong guards who can handle the ball, and help him out. He won't have to do it all himself.
 

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In my opinion. this new staff is going to displace Garrett asap. The McDermott kool-aid drinkers were brainwashed to believe this was always going to get better. It did not happen. Garrett was pushed around by Big 12 players and had a weak outside shot. Get over it. He is not D1 material.

Easily the dumbest post I've read on here in a long, long time. Do you know anything, and I mean ANYTHING, about the game of basketball?

DG beat KSU, at KSU, this year almost by himself. But according to you he's not even D1 material? Give me a break.

I suppose you're one of those fans that believes Phillips or Anderson is going to come in and be better than DG and take his minutes, right? What in the world have you seen out of either Phillips or Anderson that would make you believe that to be the case? I hope Phillips and Anderson are both great players, but Phillips played at Marshalltown Community College and Anderson at NIU. Not exactly the Big 12. Anderson's stats at NIU aren't even as good as DG's at ISU.... but automatically he's already better than DG, huh?

Why does everyone love to rip on veteran players? No wonder they all love to transfer. After playing at ISU for a year or two, you're no longer welcome I guess? How sad is that?

DG is a Big 12 caliber player... simple as that. He needs to be better more consistently and I'm sure he's aware of that. He will be our starting PG.... guaranteed.... so get used to it. We just don't have anyone else better than him. That's all.
 

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Uh, we have no other true point guard with the exception of Bubu who people refuse to believe is worth a **** even though they don't really know. DG will start and he will play a lot. IMO he will be the best player on the team next year. I think he will be one of the better guards in the Big 12. Last year, he was doomed by players standing around until there was 7 seconds left and he then had to try and make something out of nothing. If he can shoot 38% or so from downtown which is pretty similar to last year, he will be good. He has shown that he can get to the basket when he wants. The problem came from him thinking he was supposed to facilitate for CB and MG all of the time. I expect a big year out of him. I could see a stat line of about 17, 6, and 5 with 2-3 turnovers. Those turnovers and assists could be erratic just because it seems we will be uptempo. Honestly, I am almost excited to watch that team as the football team.
 

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Unless one of the newcomers plays circles around him in preseason, Diante would have to play his way out of a starting position (and significant minutes). It's his spot to lose at this point.
 

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I knew this was gonna be controversal that's why I said that DG brings out a love/hate mentality. So far, lots of love. Someone else here awhile back looked at all the games down the stretch that we were "in" at the end. I think it was either we were ahead or within 5 points with 5 minutes to go. In other words "finishing time". DG's record running the point in those games? 1 win 12 losses. I'm just recalling what I remember, guess I could dig up a link but wanna get this posted.

You wanted to get what posted? Looks like you wanted to rip a kid that has been here 3 years and done nothing but get better. Sure he wasn't ready to play when he was a freshman and should have been redshirted but it didn't work out that way. Watch the last 10 games of last year, DG got a lot better, and really he has steadily improved his whole time year.
 
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