Does the legacy of the "mayor" change after this?

cyclones12321

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I wonder if fred left now because he knew whoever took over could instantly get a head start with the team we have returning. Im sure if tj takes over he will be touching base with fred on a regular basis.
 

Rhoadhoused

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I wonder if fred left now because he knew whoever took over could instantly get a head start with the team we have returning. Im sure if tj takes over he will be touching base with fred on a regular basis.

I would 100% bet that that is a way he justified it to himself.

That was the logic used to force Orr out for Fred's senior year.
 

Gunnerclone

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I wonder if fred left now because he knew whoever took over could instantly get a head start with the team we have returning. Im sure if tj takes over he will be touching base with fred on a regular basis.

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CYphyllis

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I would 100% bet that that is a way he justified it to himself.

That was the logic used to force Orr out for Fred's senior year.

Most likely. He's probably talked himself into the false idea that the backlash from the community won't be all that bad either. For a supposed people pleaser, this isn't going to sit well.

Really looking forward to his press conference where he attempts to feed the public platitudes in an attempt to save face locally. Should be highly entertaining.
 

CycloneErik

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He chose who to do business with. I hope he has success early, cause there will be plenty who will be eager to take out the long knives in both the local and national media.

This. He's getting involved with exactly the kind of people most of us would advise someone not to get involved with. It's not going to go well for him, because it hasn't gone well for anyone else in his shoes.
 

CycloneErik

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What this whole thing might do is finish the job that conference realignment did by removing the last bits of innocence or naivete to the whole college sports thing.

It should be pretty clear by now that it's not a pretty business, but it's plainly a business to its core for everyone involved. We've all enjoyed the sentimental parts of it, but it's always been about the money, and now the curtain's pulling back for all to see.

Whether that's good or bad is something everyone can decide on their own. I think this will probably remove a lot of the innocence and blinders that could still exist out there.
 

Stormin

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I wonder if fred left now because he knew whoever took over could instantly get a head start with the team we have returning. Im sure if tj takes over he will be touching base with fred on a regular basis.

Maybe he left now because another 1st round NCAA loss would really change impressions of him.

This way if the team does well, Fred gets the credit. If the team does not do well, then the "Fred would have won it" posts would be resonating.
 

Stormin

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I would 100% bet that that is a way he justified it to himself.

That was the logic used to force Orr out for Fred's senior year.

That isn't really "forcing someone out" when you are simply verbally telling someone it is an opportune time to quit their job.

Forcing someone out is when they are given an ultimatum......Resign or be fired.....You will not be coaching next year.
 

Rhoadhoused

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That isn't really "forcing someone out" when you are simply verbally telling someone it is an opportune time to quit their job.

Forcing someone out is when they are given an ultimatum......Resign or be fired.....You will not be coaching next year.

*Actually* you could interpret that many different ways, although I'm sure correcting me for a broad term made you feel very intelligent.
 

Nelcyn

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Of course taking over for a coach who got fired for making the NBA playoffs 5 years in a row in the city of Chicago for the franchise who has won 6 titles with fans who don't think anything of him other than an unproven college coach will be much easier.

And, as we know, people from Chicago are usually so reserved with their opinions, thoughtful, and respectful.

You need to let go and move on.
 

klamath632

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Too many people acting like Fred Hoiberg owes us fans something. He never had to come back to ISU in the first place, and not only did he come back, he gave us an incredible 5 years, accomplishing things no ISU coach ever accomplished.

Yes, Hoiberg probably intended to stay at ISU longer before seriously considering the NBA. Guess what - 2 heart surgeries in 2 years make one reconsider what they want to do with their life, and perhaps this is Hoiberg's last chance to take an NBA job before his health starts getting away from him.

I swear, if something had gone wrong with Hoiberg's heart surgery earlier this year, a number of posters on this site would be kicking their dogs because Hoiberg dared die on them. Hell - they'd probably kick their dogs if Hoiberg decided to stay 30+ years and win multiple championships because he dared retire.

Deep down Cyclone fans are no different than the other fans of other teams that we all like to mock.

I love you man, but the dog thing above here might be one of the dumbest things you've ever written. Still, nuttin but love.
 

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