Down goes #4 KU

Yep Tuco acts like Iowa State is the first team in the history of college bball to play an 8 man rotation. 8 is perfect in my mind unless you're Kentucky running 10 all Americans out there. Not worried about running up these so called miles. They are 20 year old men they can handle playing 35 basketball games.
Wisconsin pretty much played 7 most games last year, 8 at the most...not uncommon at all
 
The guy made 40 3's last season and shot 40%. There's a lot of players out there with similar numbers, lots of players doesn't = elite
Man, come on,.you can't go off stats alone ( when you aren't starting, you often don't get enough attempts of time to fully get in a rhythm shooting during games ),.... 40% is pretty damn good, and he has 2 years left to get better. I don't cheer for. Any Jayhawks, but I have seen the kid shoot and he has a beautiful shot.....Self has said he is the best shooter he has ever coached, and like it or not, that is a big compliment.

and to use your logic , Steph Curry wasn't an elite shooter as he shot .408 and .389 ( last year) at Davidson....nor was Redick ( only over 40% one of his four years at Duke)
 
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Man, come on,.you can't go off stats alone ( when you aren't starting, you often don't get enough attempts of time to fully get in a rhythm shooting during games ),.... 40% is pretty damn good, and he has 2 years left to get better. I don't cheer for. Any Jayhawks, but I have seen the kid shoot and he has a beautiful shot.....Self has said he is the best shooter he has ever coached, and like it or not, that is a big compliment.

The kid is a good shooter but elite is for a select few and he does not fit that mold. Naz has put up similar or better numbers and he's not an elite shooter IMO.

Also if he's such an elite shooter he'd play more, it's not like he has a lot in front of him. Look at Tyrus, he couldn't guard me but he played a ton because he was the definition of an elite shooter.
 
The kid is a good shooter but elite is for a select few and he does not fit that mold. Naz has put up similar or better numbers and he's not an elite shooter IMO.

Also if he's such an elite shooter he'd play more, it's not like he has a lot in front of him. Look at Tyrus, he couldn't guard me but he played a ton because he was the definition of an elite shooter.

Self and Hoiberg look at the game differently, that is your answer ( no surprise Cyclone D has been our Achilles) ...also, KU has a roster loaded with talent so if a guy is a liability outside of shooting, he doesn't get a ton of minutes...we haven't been able to afford to take that stance in the past ( and that may correlate to why we have not won as many games as KU ). Hopefully that changes...

as as far as "elite", that is subjective word and I don't think either of us can speak in an absolute...it's all opinion and we abviously don't share one..
 
Self and Hoiberg look at the game differently, that is your answer ( no surprise Cyclone D has been our Achilles) ...also, KU has a roster loaded with talent so if a guy is a liability outside of shooting, he doesn't get a ton of minutes...we haven't been able to afford to take that stance in the past ( and that may correlate to why we have not won as many games as KU ). Hopefully that changes...

as as far as "elite", that is subjective word and I don't think either of us can speak in an absolute...it's all opinion and we abviously don't share one..
Beat KU twice last year. Liabilities seemed okay then
 
Beat KU twice last year. Liabilities seemed okay then
Our team the last two years was a hell of a lot better than the one McGee was on....keep up with the conversation....and if you think KU took a big step back this year, I don't think you understand basketball.....we are in for a dogfight in the B12, one we can win, but KU is very good, and possibly great if they get Diallo somewhat soon and can get him up to speed...
 
Our team the last two years was a hell of a lot better than the one McGee was on....keep up with the conversation....and if you think KU took a big step back this year, I don't think you understand basketball.....we are in for a dogfight in the B12, one we can win, but KU is very good, and possibly great if they get Diallo somewhat soon and can get him up to speed...

Yeah no. It's obvious you don't watch early basketball most seasons. KU is expected to have best team they've had since 2012 with or without Diallo.

I come to troll tuco, and you dummies bite instead.
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Self and Hoiberg look at the game differently, that is your answer ( no surprise Cyclone D has been our Achilles) ...also, KU has a roster loaded with talent so if a guy is a liability outside of shooting, he doesn't get a ton of minutes...we haven't been able to afford to take that stance in the past ( and that may correlate to why we have not won as many games as KU ). Hopefully that changes...

as as far as "elite", that is subjective word and I don't think either of us can speak in an absolute...it's all opinion and we abviously don't share one..

Graham starts over Greene and Graham is not loaded with talent
 
The guy made 40 3's last season and shot 40%. There's a lot of players out there with similar numbers, lots of players doesn't = elite
And had to have his hip sewn back together at the end of the season. Ask Naz Long if he was at 100% playing with a torn labrum.
 
Yep Tuco acts like Iowa State is the first team in the history of college bball to play an 8 man rotation. 8 is perfect in my mind unless you're Kentucky running 10 all Americans out there. Not worried about running up these so called miles. They are 20 year old men they can handle playing 35 basketball games.
No, it's not abnormal at all. It is just a bit abnormal to have only 2 of them be taller than 6'6". That's all.
 
And had to have his hip sewn back together at the end of the season. Ask Naz Long if he was at 100% playing with a torn labrum.

Naz Long made twice as many 3's as Greene, shot 39% from 3 and he's still not an elite shooter IMO. I don't think people know what elite means. Greene is a pretty good shooter, nothing more than that.