Gamblin…Smoke and Fire

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t-noah

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Deal! I will try to wait until we actually suck before saying we suck.

I don't say that going into every year though. There are years I've gone into quite optimistic, but usually we suck those years too.
Avatar change, check. Not very often I catch these!
 
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Acylum

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Rules are rules and in this case its about one of the most nefarious things out there. Gambling will suck them in and next thing you know they are either being pressured to do something bad or they are so over their heads in debt that they start making really stupid/risky bets. Gambling needs to be 100% against the rules for all athletes.
You’re funding your bet before the event now though. So you’re not indebted to anyone.
 

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It will be very interesting to see what kind of discipline the ISU players receive from Campbell. As dumb as the rule is, these guys violated it knowing full well they were endangering themselves and their team.

My guess is that even if they aren't forced by the NCAA to sit, they'll be forced by Campbell to sit.
 

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It will be very interesting to see what kind of discipline the ISU players receive from Campbell. As dumb as the rule is, these guys violated it knowing full well they were endangering themselves and their team.

My guess is that even if they aren't forced by the NCAA to sit, they'll be forced by Campbell to sit.
Yeah, based on CF posters who have experienced AD compliance meetings, this was not an oversight on the athletes' part, but rather a disregard for team rules; the reason for which is really not relevant (dumb rule, should be allowed to do this, I'm 21 etc.), which is essentially putting the team success at risk for your desired actions. Don't think that is in CMC's playbook; don't know him but that seems to be his public persona.
 

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You've watched too many movies. I understand there are outliers, but most people are making small bets to entertain themselves. This isn't some illegal ring run by mobsters. It's student athletes betting on sports in the same way that the rest of society is legally gambling on sports.
Except I’ve seen it.
 

NWICY

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Betting a game because you have an inside track on info isn't illegal though, that happens all the time. Just because a player is more likely than the general public to have connections shouldn't make a difference. Members of the betting public will be all over the spectrum as far as their level of inside info or lack there of.

Ban the players from betting games involving their own teams. Ban point shaving. Anything beyond that should be just fine.

In college I would expand that to no betting on your school no matter the sport.
The no betting on your version of the pro sports is just silly.
 
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So, since no one is saying it - are you suggesting that Dekkers is wrapped up in the gambling stuff? And you're suspecting a suspension?
this bomb got dropped in here and then nothing else was said?
 

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Idk if this is true but i'm ready for the JJ Kohl era anyway.
JJ is going to be a stud but Dekkers has so much potential and I’d love to see what he can do with the changes made.
 

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I’m hearing through various people that those athletes at both Iowa and Iowa State that were involved with betting, supposedly, an example is going to be made and they are going to come down hard on those athletes. I’m hearing 50-70 percent of their season may be lost for those individual players. I’m hoping this is not true. This is going on across the country and why they would choose the Iowa colleges to set their example is beyond me. I heard it was more rampant at U of I than it was at ISU but some of the names I’ve heard would be a big blow to both schools if true. Because this is all hearsay I am not going to mention any of the names I’ve heard. I did hear it will be all said and done by the end of June.
Lets hold these athletes to the same level of account as the NCAA holds Bill Self..
 
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In college I would expand that to no betting on your school no matter the sport.
The no betting on your version of the pro sports is just silly.
I only disagreed because imo a track athlete at ISU should be able to bet on ISU FB or BB (as an example).
 

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I only disagreed because imo a track athlete at ISU should be able to bet on ISU FB or BB (as an example).
I get that it is highly unlikely that there is anything nefarious occurring in these scenarios. However, I also don't see a problem with holding scholarship athletes to a different set of rules and expectations than a regular student. They are getting a portion, or all, of their education paid for, and they have access to training and dining that the regular student doesn't.

It's similar to pre-NIL. Scholarship athletes were not allowed to accept any type of gift, even as simple as a meal paid for them. Sure it was a dumb rule, and many got away with breaking it, however if you were caught, then you were punished.
 

NWICY

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I only disagreed because imo a track athlete at ISU should be able to bet on ISU FB or BB (as an example).

I see your point, then when I think about knowing athletes on other teams at your school, it might just be easier to not let athletes bet on their own school's sports at all. It just sucks that right now ISU and Iowa are going to take the hit on gambling but I'm guessing way more colleges than just those 2 have had athletes betting.
 

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I know that Ken Miller mentioned that it may be a tinfoil hat theory of his, but it could be that it got leaked about some under aged gambling by someone who is against gambling and may be trying to make a point by "reporting it" to the NCAA or the universities. Not saying it is true but could see it also. It sounds like the casinos/sports betting apps can't disclose even to the universities about who is using the app. If it was a regulatory body like the government, they could ask for it. That part I heard from Brian Bennett of BetFred sports on KXNO's the Morning Rush.
 
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