Godfrey dismissed from team

jsb

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 7, 2008
33,380
39,477
113
I'm not sure of this myself. I can remember 2 things for Railey - the OWI and the fight.

Godfrey got himself into some trouble during the season and now this.

I think both served 3 game suspensions during the season for their infractions. Maybe Godfrey was caught with it, suspended, and told not to let it happen again? Railey probably got told the same thing and instead of drinking and driving, he went drinking and fighting.

Best I can do.

We have no idea how many times Calvin was in trouble. I think there's a shot we didn't hear about the first time he got in trouble with drugs and the suspension was the second time.

I'm also guessing that since Railey just got charged with fighting in April and not some alcohol related offense, he didn't get booted off.
 

IcSyU

Well-Known Member
Nov 27, 2007
28,307
6,981
113
What people forget is that, like posted earlier in this thread, Iowa State tests for recreational drugs. Your first failure gets a warning, your second garners 10% of the season being a suspension (think Godfrey's suspension last season), and your third is automatic dismissal. Fred might not even have had a choice in the whole situation.
 

tazclone

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2006
10,105
1,123
113
it wasn't even hoiberg's decision. isu, like all big 12 schools, has athletic dept policies on recreational drug use that apply to all student athletes.

1st offense - no suspension (= warning)
2nd offense - suspended for 10% of games (= 3 for bball)
3rd offense - dismissal


FanHouse Report: BCS Football Program Drug Policies Revealed
EAXACTLY! IT WAS HIS THIRD OFFENSE!!

And people debating the legality here are missing the point. At the current time, weed is illegal. It is tested for, and it is written in the rules as a banned substance. Those are the rules that a college athlete must follow. They know this when they come in. They know this when they play. Godfrey failed to follow the rules not once, not twice but three times. Because he was an idiot, he was kicked off the team.
It doesn't matter if weed isn't as harmful as alcohol. It doesn't matter if it doesn't cause lung cancer, etc, etc, etc. Right now, it is a rule regulated by the NCAA. Therefore, student athletes must abide or they don't play.

Godfrey obviously loved his weed more than basketball.
 

TruClone

Well-Known Member
Mar 25, 2009
2,159
647
113
Quad Cities
I know conservatives who smoke pot on a regular basis. What does political affiliation have to do with this? They would legalize it if they could because its no worse than booze, and if you had ANY understand of marijuana or why it's actually illegal (racism towards Mexican immigrants in the 30's), you could see this.

Yes. Marijuana is illegal. That doesn't mean its use is immoral. Slavery used to be legal too.

Al, you always make too much sense. I agree with you 100%. Speeding is illegal too and I would say everyone on here does it, even those on their high horses.
 
Last edited:

UtahClone

Member
Nov 4, 2009
33
0
6
71
It's over. Wish him well in getting his life in order.
Railey's on his last strike. Hope he gets the message.
Meanwhile, this also sends a message to the rest.

Fred has to set the tone now.
 

tazclone

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2006
10,105
1,123
113
So... thinking that marijuana shouldn't be illegal makes you a pot head?

That's really mature.


Godfrey did something he was told not to (or he'd lose his scholarship). He lost his scholarship. No problem with Fred's decision, AT ALL. My problem (and its my only one here) is that the activity he's engaged in is illegal without good reason. He broke the law and has to deal with its consequences. The law however, is morally flawed.
  1. Godfrey smoked something that is banned by the NCAA, Big 12 and ISU.
  2. It wasn't really Fred's decision as it was Godfrey's thrid strike
  3. This isn't Fred making a decision. This is Fred following ISU protocol.
Godfrey made a choice...weed over basketball at ISU. Interesting enough, no one on here talks about the kid having a problem. If I had been busted twice and knew that if it happened again, I would be booted I would stop. He either didn't care or couldn't stop.
 
Last edited:

tazclone

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2006
10,105
1,123
113
EAXACTLY! IT WAS HIS THIRD OFFENSE!!

And people debating the legality here are missing the point. At the current time, weed is illegal. It is tested for, and it is written in the rules as a banned substance. Those are the rules that a college athlete must follow. They know this when they come in. They know this when they play. Godfrey failed to follow the rules not once, not twice but three times. Because he was an idiot, he was kicked off the team.
It doesn't matter if weed isn't as harmful as alcohol. It doesn't matter if it doesn't cause lung cancer, etc, etc, etc. Right now, it is a rule regulated by the ISU. Therefore, student athletes must abide or they don't play.

Godfrey obviously loved his weed more than basketball.
 

tazclone

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2006
10,105
1,123
113
I can't for the life of me figure out why Railey is still on the team. Seems like Godfrey got a second crack at things, messed up it and was shown the door...how is Railey's situation different?
it is very easy...The NCAA/BCS/Big 12/ISU bans and tests for certain drugs...steroids, perforomance enhancers, MARIJUANA, etc. They have a policy where your first time getting caught leads to a warning. Second offense leads to suspension. third offense leads you out the door. Marijuana is one of those drugs, alcohol is not.

And who know, alcohol might be one but Riley has only had two run ins. Godfrey has had three
 

Cydkar

Well-Known Member
Apr 12, 2006
26,923
12,722
113
Al, you always make too much sense. I agree with you 100%. Speeding is illegal too and I would say everyone on here does it, even those on their high horses.

And when you get caught speeding there is a penalty. Calving got caught speeding 3 times and lost his license.

That was an analogy, for those that are high.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SC Cy

CloneIce

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
37,773
21,152
113
it is very easy...The NCAA/BCS/Big 12/ISU bans and tests for certain drugs...steroids, perforomance enhancers, MARIJUANA, etc. They have a policy where your first time getting caught leads to a warning. Second offense leads to suspension. third offense leads you out the door. Marijuana is one of those drugs, alcohol is not.

And who know, alcohol might be one but Riley has only had two run ins. Godfrey has had three

Also, one of Railey's run-ins was a disorderly conduct, not an alcohol charge. I don't believe alcohol is on the 3-strikes list anyway.
 

CloneIce

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
37,773
21,152
113
B.S......maybe your reality. The attitude that everyone else does it so why not do it, is the biggest cop out. It is a good thing that we have responsible adults making decisions concerning our multi-million dollar athletic department.

You need to work on your reading comprehension. You completely missed the point, and your response has absoluteley nothing to do with my post or your own original post that I responded to.
 

CyJack13

Well-Known Member
May 21, 2010
12,666
1,665
113
This board is comedy. A coach gets arrested for a OWI after being twice over the limit and people say oh it's not big deal, Godfrey gets kicked off for weed, and now people say it should be legal anyway. I really think if a Cyclone got arrested for murder there would be a portion of the people on here defending him and telling people criticizing him to get off their high horse.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cyclone13

Yes13

Well-Known Member
Oct 9, 2009
3,371
260
83
This board is comedy. A coach gets arrested for a OWI after being twice over the limit and people say oh it's not big deal, Godfrey gets kicked off for weed, and now people say it should be legal anyway. I really think if a Cyclone got arrested for murder there would be a portion of the people on here defending him and telling people criticizing him to get off their high horse.
OMG! different people have different opinions on different things! Madness!
 

CloneIce

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
37,773
21,152
113
This board is comedy. A coach gets arrested for a OWI after being twice over the limit and people say oh it's not big deal, Godfrey gets kicked off for weed, and now people say it should be legal anyway. I really think if a Cyclone got arrested for murder there would be a portion of the people on here defending him and telling people criticizing him to get off their high horse.

That's quite a jump, from the smoking of a plant to killing another human being. Comparing the two (or even DUI which is obviously much worse) is beyond silly.

Godfrey was dumb, got busted multiple times, and deserves the punishment he gets. He's an idiot, no doubt about it. But his actions certainly don't make him a bad person, just a dumb one for getting caught multiple times.
 

Cloned4Life

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 5, 2006
3,618
3,385
113
What people forget is that, like posted earlier in this thread, Iowa State tests for recreational drugs. Your first failure gets a warning, your second garners 10% of the season being a suspension (think Godfrey's suspension last season), and your third is automatic dismissal. Fred did not even have had a choice in the whole situation.

This.
 

VTXCyRyD

Well-Known Member
Sep 2, 2010
5,655
3,022
113
punch+hippies+in+theit+dumb+monkey+faces.jpg
Stanzi, is that you?
 

CloneIce

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
37,773
21,152
113

I thought the 3rd time was an automatic one-year suspension, rather than automatic dismissal? I might have heard wrong.

Either way, Fred's hand was forced here, this is not a case of him "sending a message" or being overly harsh in his punishment of Godfrey. He wasn't left with much of a choice, if your busted 3 times in your freshman year, its going to be pretty hard to make it through the next 3 without incident. Sucks though to lose a good big man.
 

Boxerdaddy

Well-Known Member
Oct 19, 2009
4,270
1,329
113
47
Beaverdale, IA
It's sad to see all the people who don't think people should be responsible for their actions. Whether you like the rules or laws or not, these players know them and agreed to abide by them as a condition of their scholarship. You think Fred & Co. want to do this? We all have choices and CG unfortunately made the same poor choice a few times.