Hey Missouri

[CycloneErik]

What we really need is a Cooter Ray commentary on this. That would solve things for us.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

This is so true. I don't even think Nebraska fans are fully aware of this, but damn if it isn't true.

Yep. I think people confused their desire for the Big XII to collapse without them as just some blood feud with Texas. It goes far deeper then that. Texas came in and stole their thunder when the Big XII was formed and nothing would boost the Husker's ego more then leaving and watching the whole thing implode without them. It isn't about hating Texas. It has far more to do with Nebby's own feelings of superiority then anything else. Most Nebby fans you see are ****** with the progress and success the Big XII is already having without them which is why they are still so interested in everything Big XII related. They still have their fingers crossed that the Big XII will fall apart. Trust me.... 100 years from now if the Big XII disbands you can bet that there will be Husker fans cheering saying "Everyone always knew the Big XII would never survive without us!! Yee Haw!!!"

 

[CycloneErik]

Yep. I think people confused their desire for the Big XII to collapse without them as just some blood feud with Texas. It goes far deeper then that. Texas came in and stole their thunder when the Big XII was formed and nothing would boost the Husker's ego more then leaving and watching the whole thing implode without them. It isn't about hating Texas. It has far more to do with Nebby's own feelings of superiority then anything else. Most Nebby fans you see are ****** with the progress and success the Big XII is already having without them which is why they are still so interested in everything Big XII related. They still have their fingers crossed that the Big XII will fall apart. Trust me.... 100 years from now if the Big XII disbands you can bet that there will be Husker fans cheering saying "Everyone always knew the Big XII would never survive without us!! Yee Haw!!!"

Yup. Nebraska is nothing if not self-centered about Husker football. Of course, once you've been to Nebraska, there isn't much else to look forward to out there, except Nebraska football.

 

[isuno1fan]

When it comes to anything related to UT, you can't have any rational discussion with an Ag. I just decided to smile and nod after giving up.

As for aTm leaving the Big 12, I don't think that's going to happen. Most of the regents down here want UT and aTm together forever.

I got banned from the A&M Scout board for calling them a bunch of loonies with their SEC aspirations.

 

[CtownCyclone]

I got banned from the A&M Scout board for calling them a bunch of loonies with their SEC aspirations.

To hear them talk, the SEC already made them a double-secret offer to join, so they're in whenever they want to get in.

I didn't used to think so negatively about Aggies, but being around them...sheesh!

 

[Clonefan94]

i cant believe some of you are trying to justify this! wow.

i follow ISU as a second team considering i went to school there, so i hate to see this happen.

Al_4_state, you might as well just bend over and take it, because that is what you are doing without complaint.

essentially what is happening here is that UT is going to make more money off of other fans that have to buy the network to watch one game and that money could be spent on that fans own team! and tv is tv sure but not everywhere is going to have access to the longhorn network.

ISU fans are the ONLY fans in the big12 that seem to be ok with this happening other that UT of course. there is a reason that the other 8 teams arent too happy about it. i mean give me a break, i understand that ISU has not had historically great teams but that doesnt mean they need to just bend over.

Holy Crap, will you guys get over it? We took it from you guys for years as well. Voting against revenue sharing and anything else that came up that benefitted the top 4 in the Big XII. Then, when things didn't work out quite the way Nebby planned. They took their ball and ran away. Sorry, but ISU doesn't have that option. I never really cared much for Texas, but I have to admit, even though it padded their pockets quite a bit, at least they were the team that stuck around and decided to go with the Big XII. Call it bending over, call it smart financial direction, ISU would be in bad shape without Texas and I have no problem with Texas trying to take a bigger slice of the pie. They always did anyways, so if ISU can profit, then Texas can have what they need to keep the conference viable.

I have lost all respect, what littl there was for Nebraska and their fans. You have no right anymore to call foul, when you decided to bolt for a conference that stands for everything you voted against while you were in the Big XII. Face it, Nebraska is no different than Texas. They went where they could make the most money.

 

[jbhtexas]

To hear them talk, the SEC already made them a double-secret offer to join, so they're in whenever they want to get in.

I didn't used to think so negatively about Aggies, but being around them...sheesh!

It seems that A&M and Missou are definitely vying to be the next "Nebraska" (i.e. whiney crybaby agitator) of the Big 12.

I do know some reasonable Aggies, so I'm not sure if they just have a small vocal nutbase that makes all the noise, but it more and more appears to be a general condition of the fans and alums.

 

[Al_4_State]

Another thing to remember in all of this is that with Missouri and the Big 10, you had the governor of the state and university officials expressing discontent with the Big 12.

None of that is happening w/A&M. It's all fan whining.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

Here's a simple solution - just turn on the TV, turn the volume down, turn the radio up... problem solved (if you don't mind a few second delay on audio).

If you have a dvr you can pause live to run it slightly delayed and get it sync'd.

 

[VTXCyRyD]

I think its the other way around. The radio is ahead of the TV delay. At least it is on dish

 

[CycloneErik]

Holy Crap, will you guys get over it? We took it from you guys for years as well. Voting against revenue sharing and anything else that came up that benefitted the top 4 in the Big XII. Then, when things didn't work out quite the way Nebby planned. They took their ball and ran away. Sorry, but ISU doesn't have that option. I never really cared much for Texas, but I have to admit, even though it padded their pockets quite a bit, at least they were the team that stuck around and decided to go with the Big XII. Call it bending over, call it smart financial direction, ISU would be in bad shape without Texas and I have no problem with Texas trying to take a bigger slice of the pie. They always did anyways, so if ISU can profit, then Texas can have what they need to keep the conference viable.

I have lost all respect, what littl there was for Nebraska and their fans. You have no right anymore to call foul, when you decided to bolt for a conference that stands for everything you voted against while you were in the Big XII. Face it, Nebraska is no different than Texas. They went where they could make the most money.

Actually, Texas is nothing like Nebraska. They stayed and made the situation better for everybody. Nebraska left and made the situation better for everybody, but they never had any intention of helping anyone but themselves. Texas, while benefitting themselves, is doing things that benefit the entire conference.

Only time I can remember Nebraska doing that was the time they left.

 

[huskerman]

Give me one reason, just one, how this negatively affects ANYONE.

It's all about bitterness towards Texas that's rooted in jealousy. The difference between ISU and all these other schools is that ISU is far more in touch with the reality of the situation and doesn't see the point in whining about it. Without marquee schools, half of the schools in BCS leagues wouldn't be there. We benefit from Texas getting what they want.

HOW are we getting bent over? WHAT are we going to do about it?

Texas gets one freaking game on the LHN for one freaking year. It's just insane to me that fans from these other schools are so up in arms about "getting bent over". Who is Texas bending over? How are they doing it? I don't get it. People make a big deal over this for no reason. If anything kills the Big 12, it won't be Texas's greed but 8 other schools' irrational anger over Texas's greed.

first of all, i have no problem with texas. if it were any other team doing the same thing i would have the same opinion on it.

obviously as i said in my previous post this move takes money away from the institution that is forced (yes forced, they have no choice contrary to belief on this board) to play on the LHN. That institutions fans are forced (if they want to watch the game) to pay Texas to watch it, instead of being able to, for instance, donate money to ISU. I dont think you quite understand how business works exactly.

I would personally like to see ISU get better and better, as i mentioned previously, and i dont see how this is helping that cause.

And for anyone that just feels like attacking me because i am a husker fan, go ahead it just shows that you have no understanding of the situation and thus nothing to add so you take the easy way out.

Al_4_state, what i would like to know is: would you agree that as a fan of ISU would you be upset in the least bit if you couldnt see the ISU game because it was on the LHN? completely hypothetical, but a fair question because if you would be at all upset then i dont see how you can argue the way you are. just because you arent historically a great team doesnt mean that you dont have a voice. i know for a fact that other big 12 universities have voiced concern about this privately.

 

[Al_4_State]

first of all, i have no problem with texas. if it were any other team doing the same thing i would have the same opinion on it.

obviously as i said in my previous post this move takes money away from the institution that is forced (yes forced, they have no choice contrary to belief on this board) to play on the LHN. That institutions fans are forced (if they want to watch the game) to pay Texas to watch it, instead of being able to, for instance, donate money to ISU. I dont think you quite understand how business works exactly.

I would personally like to see ISU get better and better, as i mentioned previously, and i dont see how this is helping that cause.

And for anyone that just feels like attacking me because i am a husker fan, go ahead it just shows that you have no understanding of the situation and thus nothing to add so you take the easy way out.

Al_4_state, what i would like to know is: would you agree that as a fan of ISU would you be upset in the least bit if you couldnt see the ISU game because it was on the LHN? completely hypothetical, but a fair question because if you would be at all upset then i dont see how you can argue the way you are. just because you arent historically a great team doesnt mean that you dont have a voice. i know for a fact that other big 12 universities have voiced concern about this privately.

Why would a game being on the LHN prevent me from seeing it?

If it's in Ames, I'm a season ticket holder. If it was in Austin, I'd find some way to watch it. If my cable bill increases a couple bucks a year for the LHN, I couldn't care less.

I'm sure that the other universities will only care if Texas is pocketing the money. I don't care if the commentators have a bias, and I don't care if there are Texas ads. As long as ISU gets paid for the appearance, being on the LHN beats the ever living hell out of not being televised or playing in the MWC. You're acting like Texas is putting a gun to everyone's head. They aren't. Paying to watch ISU on TV is something we all already do. It isn't like the negligible increase in getting a sports package with the LHN is going to prevent me from donating to ISU. If my budget is that tight, I have no business donating to a college sports program. Unlike in Nebraska, Iowans keep college sports as a form of entertainment and put it at a lower priority than things like personal health and finances.

Next.

 

[weR138]

So one game in one season only that won't be an ISU game will be on HorNet and I'm supposed to be upset, got it.

Go find a Big Ten board, dip****.

 

[CycloneErik]

So one game in one season only that won't be an ISU game will be on HorNet and I'm supposed to be upset, got it.

Go find a Big Ten board, dip****.

Maybe he's lost, like he's in the big city, Lincoln. Maybe we should provide him some links.

I'll start: Iowa Hawkeye Football | Basketball | Recruiting | HawkeyeNation.com

 

[weR138]

I would personally like to see ISU get better and better, as i mentioned previously, and i dont see how this is helping that cause.

And for anyone that just feels like attacking me because i am a husker fan, go ahead it

Getting aced out of the B12 wouldn't help ISU get better and better and it was NU that set the missile crisis into motion so spare us the "helping the cause" bull****.

You're a ****ing idiot.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

I got banned from the A&M Scout board for calling them a bunch of loonies with their SEC aspirations.

The truth is frowned upon in that establishment.

 

[CyBobby]

Oh, the students want out. They definitely know what's best for the university. Much better than the AD's and presidents. Yep. I think Huskerfan has a seat open next to him in the NEBRASKSA/iowa state bus

well double 0 you sound like a hawk fan from iowa city now...



OOPS I forgot You are from iowa city !!!!!:twitcy:

 

[3GenClone]

obviously as i said in my previous post this move takes money away from the institution that is forced (yes forced, they have no choice contrary to belief on this board) to play on the LHN.

No, it doesn't. If Texas were to come to Ames and the game was broadcast on the LHN, then Texas foots the bill. For a "have-not" school like Iowa State, this allows the AD to look at moving finances to other projects, such as stadium renovations, new facilities, and newer equipment to compete with the other schools in the conference. In the past, it was put the game on local Mediacom and get the same quality of broadcasts that the high school games have. With the LHN, it would ensure an ESPN-caliber product with a stronger viewership than anything ISU could come up with at the current moment. If ISU or any other Big 12 university is "forced" to play on the TLN, then Texas will be "forced" to compensate them.

That institutions fans are forced (if they want to watch the game) to pay Texas to watch it, instead of being able to, for instance, donate money to ISU. I dont think you quite understand how business works exactly.

Wrong once again. ISU (or other Big 12 fans) will be "forced" into watching the Longhorn Network similar to how Nebraska fans will soon be "forced" to pay to have the Big 10 Network added to their cable providers.

I would personally like to see ISU get better and better, as i mentioned previously, and i dont see how this is helping that cause.

Because of initiatives like the TLN, universities like ISU are seeing increased revenues in their athletic budgets. These monies will ensure that the "have not" universities have the flexibility to make improvements and maintain a competitive product for the forseeable future.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

first of all, i have no problem with texas. if it were any other team doing the same thing i would have the same opinion on it.




And for anyone that just feels like attacking me because i am a husker fan, go ahead it just shows that you have no understanding of the situation and thus nothing to add so you take the easy way out.

As far as the bolded portion goes.... I don't buy it for a second. Tom Osborne and the Huskers were dominating everything in the Big 8 until Texas showed up in the Big XII and got the rules changed to not allow partial qualifiers. Tom had built his programs on the backs of a bunch of gangbangers and thugs that never should have been allowed to play as they were simply athletes with no regard to the "student" portion. Thus began the steady decline in Nebraska football for which they have always blamed Texas.

To the second portion... people aren't attacking you because you are a Husker fan. People are attacking what you are saying because in the grand scheme of Iowa State athletics what you are saying is dumb. When Nebraska left the Big XII the conference went from having 2 power hungry and greedy schools to 1. Everyone in the conference benefits from it.

In the case of Texas... they could have left for the Big 10, Pac 10, SEC, or just gone independent. Texas is one of those schools that would be absolutely fine wherever they did and there isn't 1 BCS Conference that would have turned Texas down had they wanted to join.....NOT ONE! They chose to stay. They showed loyalty. They saved the schools that were about to be left behind. In doing so they also got schools like ISU a HUGE jump in revenue, tv exposure, etc....

What did Nebby ever do for ISU other then act like a huge **** and shake us down for our share of revenue because the egotistical bastards in Lincoln thought they deserved it?