I'm operating under the position of I don't care if he wants to keep the redshirt. I want what's best for Iowa State football.
Is it "Tiller-time" for Iowa State?
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I'm operating under the position of I don't care if he wants to keep the redshirt. I want what's best for Iowa State football.
I am noticing what I think is the same issue, but am not sure what the correct term is to describe it. One typically describes a QB who only looks at his primary receiver as "locked in". They typically do not go through a progressive read and often end up throwing to their primary guy even if he is well covered or even doubled covered. All the while they are oblivious to wide open receivers. I really not sure that I see Arnaud falling into this trap.
What I do see is him picking out a receiver, but taking too long with his throwing mechanics to release the ball. Some combination of delays due to setting his feet, hesitation, arm load, whatever. When he does release it, it gets there in a hurry as velocity is not an issue. In the meantime, the DB's and LB's have a head start in terms of knowing where the ball is headed. Too often they are having time to close on the receiver either before or just as the ball is arriving. You expect a good receiver to make some catches in traffic, but not as often as the Baylor game played out. It seemed like that almost every catch was contested.
To sum up what I'm trying to say - the team, Austin, and the receivers would all benefit from trying to develop a quicker release.
What are you getting at? If you are getting at the fact that AA is the 11th best QB in the Big 12 than you are....well your not smart.
First off, the Big 12 has by far the best QB's in the country, and it isn't even close.
Second, tell me if AA has the WR's to throw to that the other QB's do. How bout as good of a running game? Offensive Line? How bout a playmaker to catch a screen and break it for 40 yds to inflate his stats? He has none of those things. It would be stupid to say that he is worse than some of those QB's b/c of the talent he has surrounding him
What I am saying we need a better offense: playcalling, tricks, scheme, going on fourth down, running, throwing, whatever if we want to win. I am not sure we have improved at all from last year. We won three games last year with a tougher schedule and played a couple of 60 minute games. It may be tight this year to exceed three wins unless we get much better. With special teams doing much better, we should be doing better than last year. Not.
Marquis Hamilton got his head taken off last night because of where AA put the ball. If you dont think Austen is locking on to guys and making poor decisions right now, i encourage you to watch the film closer.
Im not jumping on him and saying he needs to go, im saying he has to be the most improved QB in the Big 12 if we are going to win next week.
Im not jumping on him and saying he needs to go, im saying he has to be the most improved QB in the Big 12 if we are going to win next week.
We know you are not an AA fan 33. You have made that clear by saying you thought Bates should be the starter and now you are throwing your support behind Tiller. Did AA lock into WR's yesterday? Partly. But it was also partly the coaches predictable play calling. The DB's knew where our WR's were going at all times. Quick slants, screen passes, etc. We never got seperation. Arnaud could have done much better but so could the rest of the offense/coches
I agree with this. Baylor ran almost the same offense we did but they got the QB out of the pocket and bought time with designed sprint outs and spread the field better. I don't know why our staff is so in love with pocket passing when you have a guy that can throw well on the run like Arnaud.
I support AA 100% But its time for him to start winning. Time for him to be a leader, he won the spot, he needs to pick it up now.
If there is one thing that i do not like about AA most, He is not a consistant leader, He became vocal and did his thing at UNLV, but that has been gone ever since. This offense needs someone in the huddle to keep them in it, keep them going.
I realize we cant throw him under the bus yet, I realize that his guys around him arent playing the best. But passing the ball is easy. and we didnt run enough quick slants last night, thats about the only rout that works for us. We have a good group of recievers, and i agree the play calling was bad last night. But wow...
If there is one thing that i do not like about AA most, He is not a consistant leader, He became vocal and did his thing at UNLV, but that has been gone ever since. This offense needs someone in the huddle to keep them in it, keep them going.
I realize we cant throw him under the bus yet, I realize that his guys around him arent playing the best. But passing the ball is easy. and we didnt run enough quick slants last night, thats about the only rout that works for us. We have a good group of recievers, and i agree the play calling was bad last night. But wow...
I didn't like playing PB last year and I would really be disappointed if we play JT this year. We need to create separation between the classes. Last thing we need is to have JT leave in the middle of next season because (a) he doesn't win the starting job; (b) he is only one class behind AA and (c) he doesn't want to risk everything with only one season to play after AA graduates.
It's time for ISU to start winning. If we lose it's AA fault? Your post is incredibly off base I don't know where to start.
From everything I have heard, AA is a great leader, a great teammate. When you were all over Bates being the QB during preseason, I kept hearing how much better AA looked than him. One player told me there was no controversy and that AA was much better.
And since when is throwing easy? And is really that easy when you don't have open WR's to throw to? You have to have seperation. We had none against a bad Baylor Defense
Six penalties on one drive will kinda make it hard to win.
I literally saw some linemen (on the right side) give up mid-play. They had a really good replay of it. That about made me sick.
I literally saw some linemen (on the right side) give up mid-play. They had a really good replay of it. That about made me sick.
Tom Brady sadly agrees with you. I tried to make the same point earlier this week. Todd Doxen and Drew Tate might lobby for including attempting to tackle a defender who is trying to score on a turnover.
Clearly it's a different issue if someone wants to be Eric Crouch with 35+ carries, but I see no problem with 10-15 designed carries in addition to a few scrambles in response to break downs in protection.
We cant accept mediocre play at any position, and ALL im saying is that Austen didnt look good at all last night, Im not saying he wont come throw for 300 yards next week against NU. He very well has the capability to do that. But he has to improve in certain areas to be his best, and i dont know why your argueing with me about my opinion.
Yes, i liked Bates potential
Yes, ive heard countless times that our best QB is red shirting this year.
Does it matter at this point? no
We are on a 4 game losing streak. Un acceptable.
Yes, i liked Bates potential
Yes, ive heard countless times that our best QB is red shirting this year.
Does it matter at this point? no
We are on a 4 game losing streak. Un acceptable.
I agree with you on most of these things 33. My beef, I guess you could say, is that we have TONS of issues on this football team, and you seem to be throwing it all on AA. To me, it seems as if you don't like him.
Losing to Iowa and UNLV was unacceptable. Blowing a 20 point lead was unacceptable. Losing to Baylor was not, it was HOW we lost to Baylor. Playing with no emotion is unacceptable. So I agree with you that a 4 game losing streak is unacceptable
I'm trying to decide which is worse... the fact that people blame our loss last night on Mac leaving the cupboards bare or that people are throwing AA under the bus for one game, the result of which was by far not (entirely) his fault.
AA didn't let Baylor run right through him, AA didn't tackle a punt returner a second or two before the ball got to him, AA didn't get 2 or 3 false starts.
Props for atleast discussing something that is moving forward, rather than arguing about events from 2 years in the past
AA didn't let Baylor run right through him, AA didn't tackle a punt returner a second or two before the ball got to him, AA didn't get 2 or 3 false starts.
Props for atleast discussing something that is moving forward, rather than arguing about events from 2 years in the past
Im not putting this on AA, Definately put it on everyone and the coaching staff.
I dunno, but i am excited for next saturday, You should see the guys eyes light up when you mention coming back to JTS, they love it here and have so much fun. I think we will look much better next weekend, being at home and with an embarassing loss to encourage a victory.
Infact, i cant wait, because i know this weekend will be something special. Its a feeling i only get when i know somethings going to change, I can feel it, i can see it in guys emotions, and im ready to get this thing in the right direction.
I dunno, but i am excited for next saturday, You should see the guys eyes light up when you mention coming back to JTS, they love it here and have so much fun. I think we will look much better next weekend, being at home and with an embarassing loss to encourage a victory.
Infact, i cant wait, because i know this weekend will be something special. Its a feeling i only get when i know somethings going to change, I can feel it, i can see it in guys emotions, and im ready to get this thing in the right direction.
