And he builds up his resume, and leaves for UCLA, in a few years.Ya total dump. Too big to be small and too small to be big.
Not sure he will get another NBA shot.
And he builds up his resume, and leaves for UCLA, in a few years.Ya total dump. Too big to be small and too small to be big.
Not one, but two acronyms? Be better.
I think people wanted Fred to be that guy, but Matt actually is that guy. If he leaves, he leaves. I'm over it, after Fred.Those exact same arguments were used on the Hoiberg threads by people to support why he wouldn't leave for the Bull's job. I'm not saying he is leaving...but history has already proven that plenty here on the forum were foolish (maybe naive is better label) in that scenario...in in that instance, you had an Ames native, ISU grad, parents in Ames, twins in the school system, etc. etc. etc.
I'm going to toss out -- Color you naive (rather than foolish). Sometimes it feel like people have already forgotten recent history.
Why in the hell would he take Iowa State? Sure it’s a nice school with a rabid fan base (kind of like Cleve?) but has pretty much been a career ender (at the highest levels) for the previous 4 coaches (Does Chizik even count?). This program was a hot garbage mess when he took it over.
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Why in the hell would he take Cleveland? Sure it is his team but it is a career ender for most coaches. That organization is a mess.
Totally depends on the franchise. Cowboys have stuck with Garret, Steelers, Seahawks, until last year Bengals and green bay. Not ever team is like the Jet, Vikings, Lions, always searching for the next big thing.NFL coaches don't usually last long unless they are Billicheck. Even really good coaches aren't in the same spot for more than 5 years very often. Obviously, a fired NFL coach would have his pick of a lot of college jobs, but that's two moves in a 5 year span. There's a lot to be said about stability. I feel like even if Campbell is open to leaving, he's only going to go to a spot that he feels like he could stay for 15 years. It's not going to be outside of the Midwest either. I think that he's here for quite awhile unless conference realignment screws ISU.
I see what your saying here and agree to a degree. However, those aren’t apples to apples and what it looked like to get us back on track vs what things and work he would have to do to get the browns on track are two completely different things. I’m not even talking about which one is harder I’m just saying they are very different things.What do you think everyone in The country says about isu? We are the Cleveland browns of the college football world (minus the last 3 years).
Ok, isu isnt kansas or rutgers, but not far behind from a national perspective. (Minus the last 3 years).
What do you think everyone in The country says about isu? We are the Cleveland browns of the college football world (minus the last 3 years).
Ok, isu isnt kansas or rutgers, but not far behind from a national perspective. (Minus the last 3 years).
I think people wanted Fred to be that guy, but Matt actually is that guy. If he leaves, he leaves. I'm over it, after Fred.
Most coaches want money, or to reach the highest level of success possible, or both. CMC strikes me as different.
I suspect (and hope) that what CMC really wants is to preach and live the Mount Union gospel - love of football, love of the process/craft/art of football, and helping young men grow up. That's the culture at Mt Union even moreso than winning. I think that is what he wants, obviously I don't know him or his heart.
Not sure at all that there are many places that would mesh with that vision; I really don't think FSU does - they want success at cost and that doesn't strike me as something CMC would want. ISU does fit.
Others have said similar in this thread, I am just stating it differently I suppose. And maybe this is just me being optimistic, but is doesn't seem impossible to think CMC might want to build a P5 version of Mt Union. More than he wants money or fame or a blueblood trophy job.
You’d have point if we were trying to lure present day CMC back in 2015. In 2015 he was a young G5 coach with a nascent resume that inherited a good program. Moving to a struggling P5 for millions more is standard.What do you think everyone in The country says about isu? We are the Cleveland browns of the college football world (minus the last 3 years).
Ok, isu isnt kansas or rutgers, but not far behind from a national perspective. (Minus the last 3 years).
Most coaches want money, or to reach the highest level of success possible, or both. CMC strikes me as different.
I suspect (and hope) that what CMC really wants is to preach and live the Mount Union gospel - love of football, love of the process/craft/art of football, and helping young men grow up. That's the culture at Mt Union even moreso than winning. I think that is what he wants, obviously I don't know him or his heart.
Not sure at all that there are many places that would mesh with that vision; I really don't think FSU does - they want success at cost and that doesn't strike me as something CMC would want. ISU does fit.
Others have said similar in this thread, I am just stating it differently I suppose. And maybe this is just me being optimistic, but is doesn't seem impossible to think CMC might want to build a P5 version of Mt Union. More than he wants money or fame or a blueblood trophy job.
We're taking about predominantly white people here. If we white people had a super power it would be whining.I am over Hoiberg too. I'm just pointing out that people on the forum (who really had zero insight...other than their own personal feelings/desires), would chastise anyone suggesting Hoiberg would might actually leave.
It just seems many have a short memory . Can't we just admit we don't know (instead of pretending we have some insight) and just enjoy Campbell as long as we have him?
We're taking about predominantly white people here. If we white people had a super power it would be whining.