This will date me, but I was at ISU in the mid 80's with my 1st year, T's senior year. We had a basketball reffing .5 credit PE class together. We spent half the class studying the Iowa High School rule book, then the other half on the court. We would play pick-up 5 on 5, two people would ref, and the other two were on the sideline getting commentary from the teacher (Gary Greenlee now head of REC athletic facilities at ISU). Our final exam was the test to get licensed, and we had to ref three Intramural games, get video-taped and then get feedback. Great class. One time we were practicing jump balls and I had to jump against T. He wasn't short, roughly 6', but he had GREAT hops, at least compared to my liability of low hops on a 6'3" frame. it was truly laughable trying to jump against T. Quiet guy, but really nice.