It’s childish to complain about officiating. “Boo hoo. The refs got a call wrong. Let’s all wallow in social media about that call. Screw you refs!”
My 12 year old is more mature
NOTEBOOK: On Jaylin Noel’s near TD on a kick return that was called back and more from ISU’s 28-21 loss to Kansas
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My 12 year old is more mature
There were several instances of ISU's players not doing their jobs last night.
Some of it is things the coaches can only do so much for (they can't make ISU's players faster), some if it was an overall theme of overall bad preparation and discipline and that comes from the top.
How about the no non call OPI on the last drive for KU on a 3rd and 8?
Yeah, I agree as it most likely would have instantly cancelled out the Pick 6.
we had plenty of chances, not blaming the refs, but he really screwed up that call. They typically are taught to error on the side of letting the play finish so its reviewable. Just too bad.
This is so dumb. I've not read a single post saying we lost because of the refs. But there were SEVERAL really bad calls.
I don't know that I've been so livid as when they spent 20 god damned minutes trying to figure out that it wasn't a fumble on an incomplete pass. If I were a coach, I'd tell my players to pick up every incomplete pass and claim it was a fumble.
And it is criminal to call a kickoff return dead. THEY NEVER DO THAT. THEY ARE TRAINED TO LET IT PLAY OUT AND THEN GO AND SEE IF THEY STEPPED OUT.
I'm not sure anyone is saying that play was why we lost or that we didn't screw up enough otherwise. It was a big play that was negated when we were short on big plays.
Repeatedly calling out fans for being frustrated about a play that was executed well seems like a weird hill to die on. I kinda thought this is the ideal forum for something like this.
Did Kansas have to overcome anything similar last night? I don't recall them having a huge gain or touchdown called back due to a bad call. I think we can be frustrated with how we responded as well as wondering why we have to execute twice in order to have success.
Where did anybody say that?
I said they're paid professionals with the responsibility to get it right. It's not a hobby, they could take up knitting or something and if when they screw up a dog sweater nobody will care.
I thought this live but never saw a replay. Pretty sure our guy just got completely cleared out but I guess it might have been legal
Fans are upset that a horse ****/chicken **** call by a ref took away a touchdown and ISU ended up losing by 7? The audacity of those childish fans.
It was a pick play. I mean the WR ran right into a DB that was trying to close in on the open receiver. The DB more than likely gets there in time if not interfered with.
I'm sure the media in this state will take up our cause all week. We had to ******* hear about that dumb Iowa punt return for 2 weeks.
Even the publisher of this website talked about how unfair it was that such a great player had a punt return taken away from him.
I hope everyone is talking about how unfair it is that Jaylin had a kickoff return taken away.
And I will say it all day, watching the video again, it is just ******* mind blowing that the ref blew the play dead. There was one point where maybe there was only an inch of green visible but that was on the 20. Not the 30. And even so he was still CLEARLY in bounds.
That one was pretty bad. I couldn't believe how slowly our DB reacted until I saw that he just got taken out by another WR.
Was this a bad call? Yes. It is 100% a bad call. And that’s the extent of what this conversation should be. It happened, but it wasn’t why ISU lost. So it’s not really relevant in the grand scheme of the game.
Some people put way too much emphasis on officiating. Officials are human. They will make mistakes. They made a clear mistake here.
That's fair.
The players' job is to go out and play the game for 60 minutes to the best of their ability within the rules.
What's the job the officials are paid to do? And then consider they are literally provided tens of thousands of dollars worth of electronic digital video equipment to aid them in it. It's ok to point it out when they do these things that poorly.
So one of the key plays in the entire game isn't relevant?
I would say the pick six was far bigger key play. I would say two safeties biting on a RPO leading to a 80 TD touchdown when ISU had all the momentum was a far bigger key play.
The result of the play in question was 1st and 10 from the opponents 31 yard line. They did nothing with that field position. That’s on them. Just like the pick six and the defensive miscue was on them.
I admittedly don’t understand the pick play rules. It’s legal as long as you do a decent enough job of or not making it obvious what you’re doing?
Didn’t this all start with Bill and Brady in NE?
Wrong, he earned the right to be down at the 1 and it was inexplicably taken away from him. At the very least we get 3 there and it's likely we get a TD.
How is that play any less important than the other scoring plays?
You can't just blame it on the fact we still had good field position, which I would counter with the fact that when your offense is struggling 30 yards is a huge swing in field position.
