*** Official IOWA STATE vs DePaul Game(Day) Thread ***
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Since when is 6 points “decent”? Because he didn’t shoot as abysmally as we’re used to?
The fact that he played meaningfully fewer minutes tonight could be why he didn’t shoot as poorly. Coming into tonight, his last 3 games he was shooting 38%, 12%, and 11% overall while shooting 22%, 14%, and 0% from 3. All while averaging just shy of 30 minutes per game. Those are BAD numbers. This isn’t a 1 game swing.
Sure, Pav played his best game tonight by far but he was also given far more meaningful minutes and his first real opportunity. And he made something of it. Jones has been given every opportunity and has debatably cost us some games.
The most CF thing is being unable to admit that objectively bad numbers are bad.
Rulzzz prediction awards - not much to pick from but 2 stood above the rest.
Only poster to give a score prediction and we won by 19 so close enough. With 5 minutes left this was the score at that point in the game.
66% Baby!
This still needs to seriously improve for the team to accomplish special things.
Only poster to give a score prediction and we won by 19 so close enough. With 5 minutes left this was the score at that point in the game.
66% Baby!
This still needs to seriously improve for the team to accomplish special things.
It was flat out stupid that Pav was sitting on the bench in those early games while ISU was up 30-40. I know the kid isn’t a great defender, but he needed minutes and the starters needed a rest.
And I believe Dr. Marc Urquhart did it while he was in medical school! [This is not true. He went to John Hopkins for that!]
Always want to beat Iowa, but it would be a great win for this team. I too am a little worried about it.
I think we need to shoot the ball well, and a little better from 3. We need to make our FT's, and I don't have confidence in defending a good shooting team from deep. I also think we need 8-10 players in the rotation with big contributions from Omaha and Watson this season.
But what do I know, coach.
Well I completely missed this game, but glad to see we bounced back. It seems like Depaul's team wasn't very good, but we probably needed a feel good win going into the Iowa game.
The more worrisome thing is looking at the B12 standings and realizing how many excellent teams are in the conf now. We thought it was bad before, now with Houston, BYU....it is going to be a bloodbath in the big 12. A big learning curve is coming really soon for this team. I hope we will be ready.
The more worrisome thing is looking at the B12 standings and realizing how many excellent teams are in the conf now. We thought it was bad before, now with Houston, BYU....it is going to be a bloodbath in the big 12. A big learning curve is coming really soon for this team. I hope we will be ready.
I like Tamin, a lot!
No comparison to Pistol Pete, but who is? It would be cool if we could see another PG along the lines of let's say, a Jason Williams, Ricky Rubio even.
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Tamin? Could he someday draw a comparison to a smaller Jason Kidd? (Jason was 6'4")
I have to admit I have not seen any of the last 4 games yet. Congrats on the triple double. I bet he could or will do it again!
7 man rotation will wear this team down, unless they back off going balls to the wall in practice.
You can get burned in the transfer portal. Just look at the hoks in football this year...
Omaha is going to play, He hasn't earned the minutes with his play but at some point hopefully something clicks.
After King's 24 pts I wouldn't bet he takes minutes from him. Who else sits so he can play? Milan or Rob? I don't see Omaha leading the team this season. Maybe next, but he's definitely not a 1 and done like some were expecting. Be nice to get him back next season with the front court players we have leaving.
Thoughts on team after game:
1) We have a Tamin concentration risk. We seem overly reliant on him to will us to a victory. His toughness and play making are just off the charts.
2) Pav: offense clicked way better when he was in. Driving, slashing, ball movement. Needs more minutes, probably comes from Jones or Gilbert. Like him off the bench as a offensive spark when we need one.
3) Omaha: So lost out there. Top notch athlete who is unable to show any of that because he’s completely unaware and incapable of anticipating anything. He’s the exact opposite of Tamin in the awareness category. Watson should be getting all his minutes. I don’t see how something is going to “click” for him, he’s light years away from that.
4) We really miss Ward. Hope he’s healthy and ready to go when he comes back. Makes our defense so much better when we’re forced to switch on the perimeter versus BRE and King.
5) Curtis Jones: need him to be the shot maker He’s been hyped to be. Seen some glimpses now, need consistency.
6) Gilbert: when he’s rolling and attacking under control, let him ride it out. As soon as he starts forcing, get Pav in the game. If I were picking one key to our season, it would be getting him to play at his best.
7) All those flagrant 1 fouls were silly, all 3. Maybe that’s the rule now, but all 3 were basketball plays.
8) Milan: seems to really benefit from Pav slashing and better ball movement. Guy can flat out score, and we’re gonna need him a lot this year.
1) We have a Tamin concentration risk. We seem overly reliant on him to will us to a victory. His toughness and play making are just off the charts.
2) Pav: offense clicked way better when he was in. Driving, slashing, ball movement. Needs more minutes, probably comes from Jones or Gilbert. Like him off the bench as a offensive spark when we need one.
3) Omaha: So lost out there. Top notch athlete who is unable to show any of that because he’s completely unaware and incapable of anticipating anything. He’s the exact opposite of Tamin in the awareness category. Watson should be getting all his minutes. I don’t see how something is going to “click” for him, he’s light years away from that.
4) We really miss Ward. Hope he’s healthy and ready to go when he comes back. Makes our defense so much better when we’re forced to switch on the perimeter versus BRE and King.
5) Curtis Jones: need him to be the shot maker He’s been hyped to be. Seen some glimpses now, need consistency.
6) Gilbert: when he’s rolling and attacking under control, let him ride it out. As soon as he starts forcing, get Pav in the game. If I were picking one key to our season, it would be getting him to play at his best.
7) All those flagrant 1 fouls were silly, all 3. Maybe that’s the rule now, but all 3 were basketball plays.
8) Milan: seems to really benefit from Pav slashing and better ball movement. Guy can flat out score, and we’re gonna need him a lot this year.
I agree with most of what you said. As far as Omaha's minutes, he doesn't have many minutes to give to someone else (Watson?). He played only 6 minutes last night. He had a really bad looking pass after he got stuck in the air. But that was Omaha's only turnover on the night so I don't think we should overreact to it.
As good as Lipsey was, he even had a foolish fast break pass to BRE about 20 feet from the hoop.
Omaha has shown flashes of what he can do. We still have a few nonconference games left. They could set the table for what we will see in conference play.
So I got to watch the recording, which for some reason didn't start until it was about 8-10 minutes in. Doesn't sound like I missed much enjoyment from our start anyway.
This team has a lot more firepower than years 1 and 2. I think our offense has been really, really good, and against A&M, it was simply a matter of missing really good shots.
Our defense is definitely not up to par with TJ's first two years. We don't need to be up to that level to have a great season, but we have to be better than we've been. No doubt the staff is going to work on that heavily.
Pav is just a damn gamer. Love it. Type of guy that no one in the gym thinks much of until he just flat out outplays you all game.
This team has a lot more firepower than years 1 and 2. I think our offense has been really, really good, and against A&M, it was simply a matter of missing really good shots.
Our defense is definitely not up to par with TJ's first two years. We don't need to be up to that level to have a great season, but we have to be better than we've been. No doubt the staff is going to work on that heavily.
Pav is just a damn gamer. Love it. Type of guy that no one in the gym thinks much of until he just flat out outplays you all game.
Also, I'm not sure why Demarion isn't getting minutes, but our defense improves dramatically if that gets sorted out. Also need Omaha to find his footing. The next five games are going to be important for those reasons (and getting our defense on track).
A lot to look forward to, but I'm still not sure what this team will achieve just yet. Very high ceiling, but a lot to sort out to get there.
A lot to look forward to, but I'm still not sure what this team will achieve just yet. Very high ceiling, but a lot to sort out to get there.
