***Official ISU vs CU Post Game Thread***
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There is no question whatsoever that the effort on the court has been lacking this season...especially on the defensive end of the court...this team (injury depleted or not) has absolutely ZERO business being only 14-15, and 3-11.
Roy Williams has a lot better idea of how his own guys are acting and what they're capable of than the casual observer does. The difference between Roy and any of us is a million dollar paycheck for knowing what he's talking about.
I'm so ******* frustrated right now. I wonder if there are any other coaches in the nation that would have this kind of talent and a losing record. It just seems impossible.
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I'm becoming increasingly convinced that our only lineup that might be worth anything is:
1 - Colvin
2 - Gilstrap
3 - Brackins
4 - Dendy
5 - Ham
The only problem with that is that Gilstrap isn't that great at shooting, and doesn't pass the ball... or handle the ball that well. At least, not as well as we'd like in the 1 and 2 positions. And the fact that we have no depth to back this lineup up.
But it's okay, cause Mac will NEVER do it. Although, when we're down 10 in the second half of the 1st game of the Big XII tourny, I'd like to see it just out of desperation.
1 - Colvin
2 - Gilstrap
3 - Brackins
4 - Dendy
5 - Ham
The only problem with that is that Gilstrap isn't that great at shooting, and doesn't pass the ball... or handle the ball that well. At least, not as well as we'd like in the 1 and 2 positions. And the fact that we have no depth to back this lineup up.
But it's okay, cause Mac will NEVER do it. Although, when we're down 10 in the second half of the 1st game of the Big XII tourny, I'd like to see it just out of desperation.
Do you think this team has given it's all this season ON the court during games Angie?
I think that appearances can be deceiving. Many, many people have questioned Craig's commitment, and then you see the video of him beating up on himself for letting his team down. While it may appear sometimes that they've given up, the only thing I know for sure is that none of us know.
We really needed a couple of wins to give ourselves a better chance in the Big 12 tourney. This one really hurts... as have about 10 of our other losses. We will probably do better if we just let our guys go out there and play pick-up style instead of trying to coach them. Just practice making shots and let McD go on some expensive vacation with his 7 figure salary.
Our FT shooting sucks. Our players just throw it up there. They need to concentrate and actually shoot it.
Christopherson laid a big egg today. Cory Higgins tore us up. He put on a clinic. Colvin didn't play well either. Dendy needs to practice FT shooting for about six hours each and every day. When he gets the ball close to the hoop the other team is looking to just maul him, knowing that he will miss the FT's anyway.
Christopherson laid a big egg today. Cory Higgins tore us up. He put on a clinic. Colvin didn't play well either. Dendy needs to practice FT shooting for about six hours each and every day. When he gets the ball close to the hoop the other team is looking to just maul him, knowing that he will miss the FT's anyway.
Appearances are often reality too - and I firmly believe that's the case with this program. I think it's clear to anyone that watches these games - our team does not give their best effort - certainly not the same effort our opponent exerts.
It's very obvious this team does not have a yearning desire to succeed on every possession - which is something quality teams posses. I don't think it's premeditated at all, they just don't have the fire. And this goes all the way back to before the wheels came off this wagon.
It's very obvious this team does not have a yearning desire to succeed on every possession - which is something quality teams posses. I don't think it's premeditated at all, they just don't have the fire. And this goes all the way back to before the wheels came off this wagon.
And, again, nobody here knows. These guys are playing tons and tons of minutes due to a lack of depth - what appears to you to be a lack of effort may be extreme fatigue. A guy who Crazygreg railed on has played through an illness that could potentially be life-threatening in body-to-body contact. I'd say that's effort.
Moments of effort or individual efforts do not equate to a team effort. This is a "team" of individuals.
EXACTLY. Why don't people understand that just because you're individually good you won't automatically be good as a team? That's where the coaching staff comes in, usually (but not always). This is especially true in a good conference like the Big 12 too.
Or maybe they're working with a different level of talent and fatigue than our opponent? Anyone can "believe" whatever they want - unless you are in the locker room or at practices, we don't "know."
So discussion or speculation around it is unjust?
The fatigue excuse is tired (pun intended). This team's issues were the same in in November against teams like UNI and Northwestern that we're seeing now.
It's a fragile team (aka, soft) and those are Greg's words (fragile) from months ago - not mine. I think it's fair to infer a fragile team wouldn't give 100%. How many fragile individuals are giving their best. Often (but not always) fragile and good effort do not go hand in hand.
Re: ***Offical ISU vs CU Post Game Thread***
Is the bottom line that we just do not play smart?
Is the bottom line that we just do not play smart?
There are a fair amount of people on here that are unreasonable no doubt...but it's been an all-season thing...not just since Lucca left, Jamie and Charles got hurt, and Scotty got mono...this has went on all season long...you can say "nobody here knows"...but I can point at guys getting beat down court by slower less athletic guys for layups and dunks all season long, and guys that are supposed to be help defenders standing and watching while a guy drives in for a layup or dunk instead of contesting the shot all season long...or guys for other teams diving to the floor for a loose ball while our guy stands and reaches all year long (although lately we've been a bit better in that department). We are 14-15 and 3-11 in conference for a reason...and this team has absolutely no business having that bad of a record. The talent in our 8 scholarship bodies right now is head and shoulders above the talent of any other team McDermott has had at ISU.
