No I think plenty of people remember that and are watching it happen again in real time.
5-7 is probably the ceiling for this group which isn't exactly a ton better than 3-9.
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No I think plenty of people remember that and are watching it happen again in real time.
5-7 is probably the ceiling for this group which isn't exactly a ton better than 3-9.
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And Iowa is having a very down year. A normal Iowa team puts that game away.
Offense plays tentative and has zero confidence at this point which tends to happen when the D knows exactly what you're going to do. Dekkers is far from perfect but he's way better than what we're seeing and it's because Manning refuses to call plays that play to Hunter's strengths. We could have some success throwing deep every now and then but simply choose to do what the D wants us to do instead. If you're going to be predictable, you have to be nearly perfect play in and play out at every position and we're not. Not going to win much trying to just play straight up hard ass unimaginative football.
Blaming Dekkers, the line, X, or any of the offensive players is ********. This piss poor excuse of an offense is on the coaches and while Manning likely needs to go for us to significantly improve, it all comes down to the head dude. Time to live up to that reputation as a leader and get this thing on the right track. True leaders take the heat and focus off everybody else and carry that burden. While I fully expect Campbell to do that to some extent in the media, I question if he'll ultimately make the difficult decision to move on from his friend. We need an OC who can get the team ready to execute and more importantly make in game adjustments when necessary. If Campbell is too stubborn to hand over the reins to someone qualified, as others have said, it might turn into a downward spiral he can't pull out of.
Blaming Dekkers, the line, X, or any of the offensive players is ********. This piss poor excuse of an offense is on the coaches and while Manning likely needs to go for us to significantly improve, it all comes down to the head dude. Time to live up to that reputation as a leader and get this thing on the right track. True leaders take the heat and focus off everybody else and carry that burden. While I fully expect Campbell to do that to some extent in the media, I question if he'll ultimately make the difficult decision to move on from his friend. We need an OC who can get the team ready to execute and more importantly make in game adjustments when necessary. If Campbell is too stubborn to hand over the reins to someone qualified, as others have said, it might turn into a downward spiral he can't pull out of.
I wanted Manning gone 3 years ago. He had ELITE college talent and was okay with it.
I am begging people to find me OC's who did less with actual NFL bellcow RBs, multiple TEs who make/sniff NFL rosters, and a QB who made a roster from day 1 who never had what anyone would call an explosive offense.
Dekkers isn't perfect. He NEEDS to be better at feeling pressure and when to tuck and run. But there's no reason for this team to struggle so badly to generate any explosive plays. I doubt there are many teams who throw deep less than ISU, and that's been a trend for a long time now.
When they were open, Dekkers had bad mechanics and just missed open receivers. Stanley was wide open when he forced one into X that was a bad throw. Stanley was behind everyone. Line wasn’t blocking either. Remsburg isn’t back, was terrible. 4th quarter offense was a short out on first Silas stretch run on 2nd and a short crossing route on 3rd.
Valid but we aren't Alabama or Ohio Statethat just reloads talent. We had a very senior team last year and lost nearly everyone. We are ISU, there can (and likely will) be a setback after we have a stacked team like we did in 2021. I am as frustrated as all of you but "holding Campbell accountable" is the dumbest thing I have ever heard on here and there is dumb stuff posted on here every day.
Sure but you can do that all day, and our fan base is great at the, “But if you take away this and that and do this or that.”
He made the plays, especially rushing the ball for the most part. If Dekkers had been in the exact same situation on their TD, do you think he has the composure to avoid that sack and make that throw? I don’t.
There's no way these guys are THAT bad. Every best receiver drops a difficult pass once in a while. Every great QB throws a pick or misses throws. Every RB gets dinged up once in a while. NONE of these things are unique to ISU.
What IS unique is the complete lack of ANY improvement or gameplan in both offense and special teams. Heacock has now had new players rotate into his defense and he's doing great. Special Teams and Offense continue to suck massive dong and seem to be getting even worse.
I haven't seen anyone calling for CMC's head on a platter. Maybe I missed them. Manning.........yes, but not CMC.
What have you seen this year to think we might win more than 2 games in the conference?
The defense? All the other team has to do is score 14 points. The defense can only do so much.
Anyone calling for Campbell's head can be rightfully ignored, but it was a massive error to not encourage Manning to take the HC jobs he was supposedly up for. He's not good at this and is actively holding the program back by wanting to be Iowa.
I would go with 'very experienced' for last year's group.
'Stacked' gets thrown out there pretty often and the record spoke for itself that it was more limited.
Lots of posts about holding Manning AND Campbell accountable. What exactly is that besides firing them? Also lots of garbage that CW is countering on Twitter too of people calling for CMC's head.
This isn't a case of losing talent in a rebuild. Granted that has happened, but it's the WAY we're losing. It's like Manning ISNT EVEN TRYING to win.
There's losing while leaving it all on the field trying to make plays, and there's losing while running slow developing runs up the gut and having receivers run 3-7 yard routes on 3rd and 10. I mean jesus ******* christ.
Yeah anyone calling for Campbell to be fired is dumb. We're a middle of the pack Big 12 offense from being very good
Talent and great defenses have saved him from how bad he is. He can’t hide from it this year.
I’m going to assume Manning wasn’t involved in coaching the Gilbert 6th grade girls softball team.
10 points is getting it done now against the Cyclones. The fact that the ball cannot even be moved into field goal range starting from the 50-yard line may well bring that to 3-7 points.
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