Everyone is focused on the 2nd guy. The 1st guy to engage him was as much if not more at fault. Hunter had nowhere to go and was basically giving himself up and settling for going out of bounds. If the 1st guy had either ushered him out or even hit him out - no problem and no flag. Instead, he actually tries to hold him up and allow his buddy to deliver an unimpeded hit on a vulnerable player. It's a common maneuver to stand a guy up to strip the ball. That's fine. Using the tactic to potentially injure an opponent on the sideline is not OK and deserves a flag. There was no reason for it and is a clear example of unnecessary roughness.
Officiating at the end of the Iowa game
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Agree.
First QB's are protected more than other players, even running QB's.
Unnecessarily is the key word. The first Iowa player was taking Dekkers out-of-bounds and the 2nd Hawk thrust his arms out pushing Dekkers into the Iowa sideline players/bench area.
I can understand why Iowa fans are complaining, because it's probably a 50/50 call. But I like protecting players, the precedent is there with targeting and defenseless WR's.
IMO, refs just generally were not good for either team. I think on our touchdown drive, X caught a first down pass on one play while Noel was driving a defender away, making no effort to run a route. It was exactly like the offensive PI called on Iowa earlier in the game. These refs did poorly the whole game. I saw several times Iowa had a defender lined up in the neutral zone, never called. They call it on us with 9 seconds left. Unbelievable!
Watched the replay last night. I put it on slow mo when they replayed the td catch. Moss was holding him a little above the wrist. Xavier did a swim move when he went up for the ball. Moss momentum was going all that way causing him to fall. Xavier had no hands on him. It’s very easy to tell on the replay putting it on slow mo. It was all moss holding his arm.
Respectfully disagree.
Hunter probably has like, 4 inches and 30 pounds on that corner trying to tackle him. He was definitely struggling to bring him down, but they were headed out of bounds anyway, and I think he was just trying to push him there. I don’t think he was doing anything wrong, other than getting bullied by Hunter.
You could very well be right, but I still see an effort by Roberts to take a position to stop Hunter from going out of bounds so that Cooper could come in for the 2nd hit. If Roberts doesn't push from the sideline back into the playing field, Hunter is off the field before Cooper arrives to hit him.
Rewatching the game now and just watched that play again. Roberts definitely isn’t pushing Hunter back into the field of play.
I will say though, earlier in the drive DeJean had a similar play with Hutchinson that didn’t get called (Hutch wasn’t engaged with another player but clearly was running out of bounds). And then a couple of plays later, there was a scruff that officials had to break up that DeJean started as well, just a couple of plays before his unsportsmanlike. I think he was just itching to start some **** and was getting frustrated with Dekkers surgically neutering him that drive.
Especially on an apparent change of possession play. There is going to be a lot of movement here and there with a team bringing their D off the field and their O on the field and many times the coaches and other players are meeting and congratulating their D on the field of play as they are coming off. I would think that it would have to be pretty egregious for that flag to come out.
For the first few years, the Big 12 North was the power. From about 2002 to 2005 is wasn't very good. Then in 2006 is started to get better, from there, a lot better.
Not sure why there's so much discussion on the late hit by Dejean. It was on first down and we were obviously just gonna four yards on second down and get another 7 yard catch on 3rd and 6 had it not been called
I struggle to believe Hunter is smaller than Brock and assumed he was 225ish, but either way, 206-165 =/= 30.
THIS!!!! Yes, he was engaged prior to going out of bounds but the shove was well into the boundary. Jesus, that wasn't even debatable.
