Original design of Hilton
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Watching play in games and I've never noticed how weird Dayton's arena is. Started to Google pictures of why, and yep:
Bigger Knapp Center.
More history: As I recall (can't find anything on this online) the original proposals for the Iowa State Center were for one large multi-use facility. Later, Mr. Fisher from Marshalltown brought in the architectural firm of Crites McConnell from Cedar Rapids who proposed the design at the top of this thread. Ray Crites had work with Fisher on a theater in Marshalltown. Crites McConnell then teamed with Brooks Borg Skiles architectural firm from Des Moines on the project.
The first design of Cyclone Stadium had each balcony section as its own section with concrete walls on each side and each section separated from the next. That would probably have been too much weight for the berm. Well the current design settled anyway from frost getting into the east berm during the January 1974 “24-7 around-the-clock” moving of the soil to create the berm.
Incorrect. Envelope integrity is an architectural concern (snow loading is a Structural Engineering + Architectural concern). Mechanical Engineers are happy to carry the water from storm drains through the building. Civil Engineers take it from 5' outside the building to wherever it goes after that.
Maybe I missed it but is there a drawing of what the original Iowa State Center master plan was? I'd be interested to see, from what I remember I think there was plans for a hotel and stuff
It's amazing to see this stuff 55 years ago and then just 5 years ago a contractor failed multiple times to build bridge piers off of I35.
Personally I don't really care for Wells Fargo in Des Moines. It has no personality and the distance of the seats on the ends to the court is awkward. Would rather watch a game in old Vets than Wells Fargo.
Yup. Glad it is called a coliseum. Like the 2,000 year old Colosseum in Rome. Both pretty incredible.
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I think it was the 90s when the ceiling tile did fall in the seats. Luckily not during a game. That place is dangerous. I toured it around that time and was amazed it seats 1000s more than Hilton.
Like you know anything about facilities management.
BTW, wasn't the rumor that the bathrooms weren't in the original design and why they are boxes on the outside?
Hockey arenas for basketball are sometimes tough.
That’s for sure. Wells Fargo is about as blah as they get. It’s basically the generic stadium from a video game.
Back in that day architects had engineering degrees as well and weren't strictly designers like they are now. There are so many conflicts between disciplines in the design process now that the addendums outweigh the original plans and there are still basic conflicts. The design tools that exist today were unimaginable back then but the products were better.
IMO ISU made a mistake dropping the engineering program.
Yep...huh? I agree. No engineering program as be dropped to my knowledge.
Now before 1978 when the Design College was formed, the architecture department was part of the College of Engineering. And by the way in 2019 the architecture department was ranked 22 out of 115 programs nationwide. So it is doing okay.
