I thought the lack of a running game really hurt the offense. Look at the rushing stats and thats a good clue as to who won the game. Defense is another story. We obviously are not the same team who played Tulsa in september, injuries have taken the toll defensively. Hurricanes wanted it more. It is what it is. No need to burn down the house cause the roof leaks. Fix the problems and move on to 2013. Hard to get up for a bowl game against a non BCS team you already beat by DD 3 months ago.
Paul Rhoads true colors beginning to shine through
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That was the difference this season between 6-7 (yawn) and something like 8-5.
The only teams ISU beat were (1) bad offensive teams (2) defenses that couldn't defend the pass (3) TCU (4) Division I-AA
Tulsa was a "wash."
Hells Bells Im still waiting to get to the NEXT LEVEL....Whats cpr's timetable for that?
Wow some (OP and a few others) are starting to sound like the fans of that school to the east of ISU.
However, what does concern me about the coaching is that ISU started out so good, fell apart, and then was obviously totally inept at making (or even trying) the necessary adjustments. In the end, it comes across as ISU being totally UNPREPARED for an opponent that they had played before in the same year, and for which they had 15 extra practices and 3 weeks to prepare.
Not that there was necessarily a solution on the bench, but I don't think I will ever understand why SR was allowed to start the 2nd half, given how ineffective he was in the 2nd quarter.......plus the fact that by then the coaches had to know that his illness was having an impact on him. To start the 2nd half.....ISU had to come out strong...both defensively and offensively. How are you going to do that with a sick qb? I don't get that thinking.
However, what does concern me about the coaching is that ISU started out so good, fell apart, and then was obviously totally inept at making (or even trying) the necessary adjustments. In the end, it comes across as ISU being totally UNPREPARED for an opponent that they had played before in the same year, and for which they had 15 extra practices and 3 weeks to prepare.
Not that there was necessarily a solution on the bench, but I don't think I will ever understand why SR was allowed to start the 2nd half, given how ineffective he was in the 2nd quarter.......plus the fact that by then the coaches had to know that his illness was having an impact on him. To start the 2nd half.....ISU had to come out strong...both defensively and offensively. How are you going to do that with a sick qb? I don't get that thinking.
Yep... with over 10 minutes left in the game, Rhoads had to resort to the desperation of making them re-kick instead of taking the ball at the 35 because he knew our offense wasn't going to be able to move it. And then shortly after that, we attempt a hook and ladder play. Total desperation.
The game was nowhere out of reach yet at that point and there were over 10 minutes left. But Rhoads knew at that point that there was NO way our offense was going to be able to move the ball without gimmicks. That's how sad and pathetic it really was folks.
You would think that Rhoads might make a change at OC after looking that bad on national TV? We shall see?
Our debacle yesterday on National TV on offense is all CPR needs to know and make the change that is needed, but will he be aggressive enough to do so, I sure as hell hope so. I just want to take a minute and say thank you seniors I hope life after college is successful for all of you, I appreciate your hard work and dedication to Iowa State.
Mac left the program in bad shape, Chizik made it worse. Mac did do a lot of the program. He only had one 9 win season and four 7 win seasons. He never had a breakthrough win. His team never were close to getting an upset. He won the games he should have and lost, many of them bad, against teams that were better.
There are some ugly stats in this article.
Certainly not the performance I expected. I struggle with how long it takes to build a winning program here, but at the end of the day it is not easy, but I expected more progress in the last 2 years than I have seen.
We certainly have challenges in the off season and I still look forward to next fall.
**This is my opinion and only an opinion.
I'm resigned to the fact it's a "7-year plan" with turning-the-corner crumbs dropped along the way. I got that vibe during Rhoads' second season, and I'm even more convinced after 2011 & 2012.
We won't see more than 7 wins until about 2015. At that point it could proceed to 9- and 10-win territory. IF that happens, patience is worth it. Along the way, we have to embrace high points and enjoy being non-terrible, apparently.
I agree 100%. You cant change ISU football culture in 4 years. To abandon the coach now would be silly.
I agree, but I don't think we can do better. And actually I don't want Rhoads to go. He is still a perfect fit here. I LOVE his emotion, his passion, and his leadership. BUT.... he's not much of an X's and O's type guy. He's a great figure head, and that's it.
So keep Rhoads as the face of the program. Let him be head coach, recruit like crazy, and be the CEO of the program. But then, give him the money he needs to go out and get a complete stud OC. This entire offense needs revamped completely IMO. It's just painful to even watch.
Get awesome coordinators to coach, and let Rhoads be the just the "manager" of the team IMO.
Everyone who thinks that this loss was due to a single player, or penalty, or a justified *** chewing, or doesn't believe that this program can't get to the "next level" deserves the mediocre program that they whine about having.
This team was very close to beating a bcs bowl team and as well as an 8-4 season inspite of having a poor offense and statistically average defense. The right man is in charge. If you don't think so then you can frankly STFU because you are wasting oxygen lamenting the same old **** that gets repeated constantly by the cry baby pathetic fans.
We got beat by a motivated team that wanted it more and executed better. Get over it. Time to put on your big boy pants and move on to next season. I'm actually looking forward to that next game at Tulsa. Boys!...Avenge me...AVENGE ME!
This team was very close to beating a bcs bowl team and as well as an 8-4 season inspite of having a poor offense and statistically average defense. The right man is in charge. If you don't think so then you can frankly STFU because you are wasting oxygen lamenting the same old **** that gets repeated constantly by the cry baby pathetic fans.
We got beat by a motivated team that wanted it more and executed better. Get over it. Time to put on your big boy pants and move on to next season. I'm actually looking forward to that next game at Tulsa. Boys!...Avenge me...AVENGE ME!
I don't agree with your ideas/opinions very often but we do need to get an experienced OC even if only for a couple years to implement a better scheme. But we did have Herman who btw just coached an undefeated team. And we tried the CEO route with Chiz that didn't work out well either. Problem may be Wally won't be around for too much longer so this offense needs to click soon.
"Paul made a terrible decision to accept the holding penalty when we made a stop on 3rd down that would have made it 4th and 2. Then Laing gets a dumb personal foul and Rhoads chews him out. Probably doesn't happen if the coach doesn't make a terrible decision."
This part makes no sense CYcoFan. Tulsa probably would have gone for it and we never show that we could stop a 4th and 2. A coach doesn't plan on his players (much less a senior) making a irrelevant personal foul in a situation like that.
That foul changed the rest of the game. It probably would have been a 7 point game, not a 2 score game. We were playing like crap, but that changes the offensive play calling for the rest of the 4th quarter.
This part makes no sense CYcoFan. Tulsa probably would have gone for it and we never show that we could stop a 4th and 2. A coach doesn't plan on his players (much less a senior) making a irrelevant personal foul in a situation like that.
That foul changed the rest of the game. It probably would have been a 7 point game, not a 2 score game. We were playing like crap, but that changes the offensive play calling for the rest of the 4th quarter.
