Paul Rhoads true colors beginning to shine through

TDclones

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We'll see about this next year...two back to back bowl flops + average wins during regular season + increased prices for tickets and parking + an economy going South = loss in attendance.

We want to be big time but we are very, very average. We just got mopped by a school that is 5 times smaller than us and in a non BCS Conference. Should have taken advantage of the support when you had it! Looking at the schedule for next year, I see us getting no more than 3 wins.
 

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I would like to re-state this. I do not EVER want to see anymore rah-rah, "I am so proud..." stuff again until we win a bowl. CPR has a lifetime contract as far as I am concerned. He may be like MacCarney in many ways, but I do think he would be loyal to ISU where Mac would have took the next available Big Ten gig had he been able to pull it off.
I of course would not expect this to be announced, but no more victory, water-throwing celebrations until we finish a season....hopefully that focus and drive may lead to some mental clarity that our offense is wrong for Iowa State. We are as of right now looking at a two-year famine there if we change schemes now so we must keep big picture in mind.
 

Istater4life

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CPR needs to come on this board and read some of these messages so he can learn how to coach. The last four years he's obviously shown he has no clue how to build a program. And Richardson, he is just awful. It's not like he's a freshman or something.
 

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He is 3 out of 4 years bowling with one season very close. This is amazing for an ISU coach. #endofthread

He is also 3 out of 4 years with a losing record. This is not acceptable for an ISU coach who wants to improve the program.

We need accountability. I am sure CPR understands this. Time will tell if he pinpoints the same areas to focus upon that the fans do.
 

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Anybody that can't see that as a whole we are playing differently defensively and are making a ton of progress doesn't know what they are looking for and can't read a scoreboard. ISU is more physical, more prepared, more everything than previously. It is night and day versus when PR took over. Offensively clearly there are problems, which I suspect are disapoinintg to PR and they are infuriating to me. PR said himself in the post game, they just didn't move the sticks enough this year. He knows the offense is an issue. Part of the problem is the schedule and guys just getting worn down and we still aren't deep enough to compensate for that. Clearly some guys got hurt that we really missed in the WV game.

It takes many years to build a program and slowly he is getting it there. Defensively I have no real worries as long as PR is here. Offensively clearly something needs to be done. I just hope he can get the ball rolling in the right direction offensively before whatever this problem is becomes too big to be able to fix.
 

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So were basing his "true colors" on roughly 5% of his games? This place is as bad as hn right now
 

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The game was obviously not what was expected but I think emotion may be playing a part in some of the posts. If I'm not mistaken CPR was a defensive guy before he was hired to be head coach. That may explain why he hired older, established OC so far in his tenure. I think recruiting has gotten better every year and when he thinks he has the right players in the program he might hire a younger more explosive guy for the offense. When he took over he had a team that was in sad shape and he needed to establish a base which I think he's done. This is not the program it was 5 years ago. With higher accomplishments come higher expectations and a higher level of frustration when things don't go as planned. Going to a bowl game, no matter which one, 3 out of 4 years and only one game away from 4 out of 4 years is quite an accomplishment for a program with the history of ISU. If I remember correctly ISU has only been to roughly 12 bowl games in its history. Paul Rhoads has a fourth of that. I obviously don't know the program as well as many if not all that are on here but when I call the ISU football team a program it is a compliment. It is something that I would not have called it in the past. The loss hurts but you are going in the right direction and I think continued success will be had. Good luck in 2013.
 

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Funny to see how history begins to repeat itself. McCarney had four 7 win seasons in his last six years and it wasn't "good enough" for us. We are slowly getting back to being an "average" team so that we can build to "above average and beyond" and we already have people questioning everything.

Chill out. Programs turn around over decades, not single seasons (or 4).
 
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For gripes sake CPR is who we need right now and he will make the right moves. I am not pleased with yesterday, but CPR is not getting help from his OC and Oline coach and that hurts his image on the win/loss column. As a head coach you are only as good as your staff.
 

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Is it really that impressive when there are 35 bowl games? 70 out of 120 teams make bowl games.

That number looks a lot worse when you look at BCS conference schools only. Making a bowl game is nice but it is not incredibly impressive.

I'm not saying we should fire CPR. Far from it. What I am saying is that our expectations are way out of whack and signing him to this contract was a mistake. Anyone claiming he should have a lifetime contract needs their head examined.
 

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For gripes sake CPR is who we need right now and he will make the right moves. I am not pleased with yesterday, but CPR is not getting help from his OC and Oline coach and that hurts his image on the win/loss column. As a head coach you are only as good as your staff.
ROTFL...valiant try, but "his OC and Oline coach" weren't the ones out there holding, throwing passes awry, making stupid penalties after the play, not tackling (or filling the hole), or, inexplicably, not booming punts when such were desperately needed...

I don't know why the team was flat--perhaps because of replaying an opponent--but they clearly were. And it surely didn't help that Jake Knott was hurt. Umm...how is that any of the coaching staff's fault?
 

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Mac left the program in bad shape, Chizik made it worse. Mac did do a lot of the program. He only had one 9 win season and four 7 win seasons. He never had a breakthrough win. His team never were close to getting an upset. He won the games he should have and lost, many of them bad, against teams that were better.

That's untrue. There was more talent here for Rhoads than there was for Chizik.
 

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ROTFL...valiant try, but "his OC and Oline coach" weren't the ones out there holding, throwing passes awry, making stupid penalties after the play, not tackling (or filling the hole), or, inexplicably, not booming punts when such were desperately needed...

I don't know why the team was flat--perhaps because of replaying an opponent--but they clearly were. And it surely didn't help that Jake Knott was hurt. Umm...how is that any of the coaching staff's fault?

Messingham will never run and average B12 offense onto the field. He cannot make any adjustments. How many game did we score early only to not score later on? A lot of them. he calls his ****** and it works. If it were me, you switch he and Sturdy.
 

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ROTFL...valiant try, but "his OC and Oline coach" weren't the ones out there holding, throwing passes awry, making stupid penalties after the play, not tackling (or filling the hole), or, inexplicably, not booming punts when such were desperately needed...

I don't know why the team was flat--perhaps because of replaying an opponent--but they clearly were. And it surely didn't help that Jake Knott was hurt. Umm...how is that any of the coaching staff's fault?

How is playing flat not the coaching staffs fault? It is the coachs job to get the team ready to play and we clearly weren't.
 

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CPR is our guy. He is going to make mistakes, but considering the stretch of recruiting we have had and the attendance things are looking up. Fix the Offense and we will be much better off.
 

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How is playing flat not the coaching staffs fault? It is the coachs job to get the team ready to play and we clearly weren't.
Apparently you've never heard veteran coaches talk about how they can do everything in the world to get a team up--and they still come out flat. Or vice versa. Coaches don't have absolute control over everything, and players don't have an on/off switch waiting to be thrown.
 

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Some have mentioned the tackling. Where was a timeout and just ripping into the guys for ****** tackling? Nope we don't get that one. We get an *** chewing on guy that made a dumb play following a terrible decision to accept a holding penalty after we hold them on third down.

He didn't rip Jensen for essentially the same thing. Rhoads looked like a complete baffoon
Wow, total fail by total troll