Peterson: End Zone Bowled in within 5 years

[Bigman38]

Well, let me be the one to remind you. The Reimen family stepped up when asked by the University/ISU Foundation and donated millions to develop that area as a gateway to the University. IMHO, That is why it needs to be protected...it isn't just a garden. There is still plenty of area within reasonable distance for parking...and the gardens with a finished SEZ will look much better than a finished SEZ with a parking lot.

This. Reimen Gardens could really help the SEZ entrance look pretty awesome. An impressive entrance is something Jack Trice is in serious need of when you compare it to other stadiums. I've always thought the first impression you get when you're coming down University is fairly unimpressive.

 

[Cycsk]

I believe that point is 56,800. That's not a random number, JP won't sell over that.

I suspect that we will see 56,800 passed a few times ... when Pollard wants to set a new stadium record. I suspect that these numbers are managed a bit for PR. Look for the next record to be set when we are playing a highly ranked team and likely to be on national TV.

 

[Judoka]

The most interesting thing in that article, to me anyway, was the statement that the last game of the year against Kansas will be the 19th 50K+ attendance game in a row. Bold prediction, unless the numbers for "currently sold" are close enough to support it, IMHO. Where's the ticket thermometer???

Our home games this season:
UNI (sellout for sure)
Iowa (sellout for sure)
Texas (sellout for sure if we are 3-0, probably will break 50k as long as we're at least 2-1 unless)
Oklahoma State (Will break 50k as long as the season isn't a dumpster fire)
TCU (See above)
Kansas (The Saturday before Thanksgiving, this could be sketchy to getting to 50k)

 

[TXCyclones]

This. Reimen Gardens could really help the SEZ entrance look pretty awesome. An impressive entrance is something Jack Trice is in serious need of when you compare it to other stadiums. I've always thought the first impression you get when you're coming down University is fairly unimpressive.

I don't disagree with this. Reimen Gardens are very pretty and a quaint little touch. And I think that it could compliment the SEZ. But the Garden is neither a first impression or a last impression. In fact, most people making their first trip to ISU don't even remember it being there. A young man on his school visits for engineering from here in the DFW just made his trip to ISU. He LOVED the campus and the school! He and his dad stayed out at Gateway and entered and left the campus past the stadium every day. Since this thread was underway I asked him last night what he thought of the Gardens by stadium. He said, "huh?". He could recall everything about the campus from the stadium to the Greek houses to central campus to Welch Ave to the Memorial Onion to the vet/ag buildings; but didn't recall any Gardens. He did say he'd have to make a point to check them out when he starts school there. But I thought this was pretty telling.

 

[Rabbuk]

43 days 7 hours 19 mins.

 

[Cycsk]

I don't disagree with this. Reimen Gardens are very pretty and a quaint little touch. And I think that it could compliment the SEZ. But the Garden is neither a first impression or a last impression. In fact, most people making their first trip to ISU don't even remember it being there. A young man on his school visits for engineering from here in the DFW just made his trip to ISU. He LOVED the campus and the school! He and his dad stayed out at Gateway and entered and left the campus past the stadium every day. Since this thread was underway I asked him last night what he thought of the Gardens by stadium. He said, "huh?". He could recall everything about the campus from the stadium to the Greek houses to central campus to Welch Ave to the Memorial Onion to the vet/ag buildings; but didn't recall any Gardens. He did say he'd have to make a point to check them out when he starts school there. But I thought this was pretty telling.

The bolded item may explain the oversight.

 

[ISUME]

Just by looking at google maps, I don't see how the SEZ and the gardens are tied together?

 

[KnappShack]

In 5-10 years the Big 12 could be dead. It would be great to make upgrades much sooner

I read an article saying everyone will be taking online classes in 20 years anyway. So maybe colleges will all be run out of one IT building and ball will be a memory

 

[cycloneinpdx]

In 5-10 years the Big 12 could be dead. It would be great to make upgrades much sooner

I read an article saying everyone will be taking online classes in 20 years anyway. So maybe colleges will all be run out of one IT building and ball will be a memory

If the Big 12 could be dead (I don't think it will be), would it be wise to undertake a huge, multi-million dollar construction project on our football stadium? I have a feeling if we're playing some hardcore MACtion in 10 years, we probably won't be selling 50k/game*, let alone the additional 10-20k that the expansion would probably entail. Nothing screams "failing program" like an empty stadium on gamedays.

Maybe waiting 5 years to see what happens with the NCAA and Big 12, or if we ever draw interest from a "major" conference when rumors spring up again, would be a good idea.

 

[mustangcy]

If the Big 12 could be dead (I don't think it will be), would it be wise to undertake a huge, multi-million dollar construction project on our football stadium? I have a feeling if we're playing some hardcore MACtion in 10 years, we probably won't be selling 50k/game*, let alone the additional 10-20k that the expansion would probably entail. Nothing screams "failing program" like an empty stadium on gamedays.

Maybe waiting 5 years to see what happens with the NCAA and Big 12, or if we ever draw interest from a "major" conference when rumors spring up again, would be a good idea.

Pretty much disagree with this whole post. You don't sit back, watch and wait for bad things to happen. You make every effort you can to bring your facilities, programs and national prominance up while you can so if a change does happen you are prepared, in the best position you can...and also more attractive.

If this doesn't happen in 5 years I'd be shocked...and more than a little discouraged. Our revenue from the Big 12 could be north of 30 million a year in 5 years. What you are seeing is JP getting all he can get done today...done. Then he sits back, collects checks, pay's off debt over the next 1-2 years then announces the SEZ project around 2015 with a completion date of say around 2016.

I don't think people realize the amount of money ISU is getting today over years past. JP will be able to pay down debt on the currently new facilities much more quickly than ISU has ever dreamed of...and make no mistake ISU officials at all levels fully understand the importance of ISU being relevent in college athletics.

Pay down the debt for a few years and build the SEZ by around 2016-17 around the time other projects/debts are coming off the books. I'd bet money that's the plan.

 

[Rods79]

...and the fear-mongers cometh. GOR and TV revenue...enough said for the near future.

I think this thing picks back up on design this season, announced early next year, built in 2015, and ready for the 2015-16 season...40 years after the original Jack Trice Stadium opened. I'll add another prediction on a favorite topic...Jack Trice Alt Uni's this year against Texas.

 

[alarson]

The funny thing is for years its been said that the SEZ wasnt about new capacity (it wasnt), but giving real seats and improving the environment.

Now im not so sure it shouldnt be about capacity. We've been increasing attendance since the chizik years. We're near (or possibly even at) sellout on real season ticket seats. At the rate we've been increasing season ticket sales, we're going to be at the point where we're leaving dollars on the table.

 

[SC Cy]

You guys do know that President Leath is a plant scientist, right? :shocked:

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[NATEizKING]

43 days 7 hours 19 mins.

I'll take that bet, no way it's done by then.

 

[cyclone87]

Pretty much disagree with this whole post. You don't sit back, watch and wait for bad things to happen. You make every effort you can to bring your facilities, programs and national prominance up while you can so if a change does happen you are prepared, in the best position you can...and also more attractive.

If this doesn't happen in 5 years I'd be shocked...and more than a little discouraged. Our revenue from the Big 12 could be north of 30 million a year in 5 years. What you are seeing is JP getting all he can get done today...done. Then he sits back, collects checks, pay's off debt over the next 1-2 years then announces the SEZ project around 2015 with a completion date of say around 2016.

I don't think people realize the amount of money ISU is getting today over years past. JP will be able to pay down debt on the currently new facilities much more quickly than ISU has ever dreamed of...and make no mistake ISU officials at all levels fully understand the importance of ISU being relevent in college athletics.

Pay down the debt for a few years and build the SEZ by around 2016-17 around the time other projects/debts are coming off the books. I'd bet money that's the plan.

Exactly, if we sit back because we think it too risky to put money into expanding the stadium, increasing capacity, and making it a more "big-time" environment we are increasing our chances of getting left-out next time realignment comes around. This project has been a long-time coming, lets get it done already (make sure its done well at the same time though)!

 

[alarson]

I dont think our stadium will affect a damn thing if things start realigning again. We could drop a billion dollar palace of a stadium down and it wouldnt matter, unless a few million more people moved to iowa and became iowa state fans and drove ratings higher for us. Its all about what we bring to the table, and our stadium size, while potentially helping our AD itself, doesnt contribute to the conference.

 

[cyclone87]

I dont think our stadium will affect a damn thing if things start realigning again. We could drop a billion dollar palace of a stadium down and it wouldnt matter, unless a few million more people moved to iowa and became iowa state fans and drove ratings higher for us. Its all about what we bring to the table, and our stadium size, while potentially helping our AD itself, doesnt contribute to the conference.

facilities including the stadium do matter, other things may matter more but facilities are important as well. Having nicer facilities, winning more games, and increasing university enrolment can all work together to increase our fan base as well.

 

[Cyballzz]

If the Big 12 could be dead (I don't think it will be), would it be wise to undertake a huge, multi-million dollar construction project on our football stadium? I have a feeling if we're playing some hardcore MACtion in 10 years, we probably won't be selling 50k/game*, let alone the additional 10-20k that the expansion would probably entail. Nothing screams "failing program" like an empty stadium on gamedays.

Maybe waiting 5 years to see what happens with the NCAA and Big 12, or if we ever draw interest from a "major" conference when rumors spring up again, would be a good idea.

Just so I am clear here... Iowa State should not build something that would improve the stadium (and the stature of the program) on the chance that rumors (MAC rumors which were completely unfounded the last go around) might start again? Makes sense... Dont improve the program now to put it into a position so that when realignment starts again ISU is an attractive option...

Also the only clown I ever saw pointing to the MAC as a "viable" option (and giggling) was this tool bag:

 

[DesertClone1]

If the Big 12 could be dead (I don't think it will be), would it be wise to undertake a huge, multi-million dollar construction project on our football stadium? I have a feeling if we're playing some hardcore MACtion in 10 years, we probably won't be selling 50k/game*, let alone the additional 10-20k that the expansion would probably entail. Nothing screams "failing program" like an empty stadium on gamedays.

Maybe waiting 5 years to see what happens with the NCAA and Big 12, or if we ever draw interest from a "major" conference when rumors spring up again, would be a good idea.

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[Havs]

K-State and Oklahoma State sure didn't care if the Big 12 collapsed.