I don't really know what you mean when u say church. I attend worship in a church but that church doesn't define me at all or my faith
Playing Colvin - Mac's biggest mistake
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I don't really know what you mean when u say church. I attend worship in a church but that church doesn't define me at all or my faith
Steve's direct words: "I am not surprised that the guys at Cyclone Fanatic, whose moral standard is 'if she is old enough to be is old enough to for me' I am not so surprised that they are rallying around the flag. That is what I am referring to.
Yeah I just heard that as well. Maybe I am behind, but what does Deace have against this site?
CycloneErik
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So after 4 years a good coach would have been able to turn things around just a little bit at the very least right?
I like Greg. He is a good guy. He had some terrible luck when he took over and pretty much every talented player we had bailed on him. That was a terrible break when he first took over and there is no doubt about that.
I love ISU Athletics and want to see them be successful in all sports. I supported McCarney when he took over the football program when it was absolutely awful and it took him several years before we really saw any success at all. I was ok with that because football is a much longer building process then it is for basketball. Do I think GMAC was given time to turn the program around? Yes. Unfortunately he just isn't getting the job done and in basketball after 4 years of time on the job our program hasn't really made any headway in getting better and winning games. It sucks quite frankly. I understand there is a huge price that we would pay to make a coaching change at the end of the season but at what point does the damage to the program out weigh the damage being done to it?
I just think that there are too many red flags being thrown out at this point from the program to avoid looking into this much deeper. Burying our heads in the sand and just sticking with the old company line is not going to solve the problems we are facing.
Another poster on here commented that all of the people who are upset about the state of the program and are venting their frustration need to go find a new team to cheer for? Really? Being a real ISU fan means we just sit on our hands, shut our mouths, donate money, buy tickets, buy Clone gear, etc.... and never ask any questions about what is going on with the programs that WE fund? So the answer is for fans that love ISU athletics to take their donations, purchases, attendance, and passion elsewhere? How awesome. I didn't realize that ISU Athletics were in such a great position that they can afford to lose about 50% of the fanbase.
Wake up people. Questioning things that are going on with the program is a part of being a fan. Having an opinion is part of being a fan. Speaking your mind is part of being a fan. Just be glad at the end of the day that apathy hasn't set in yet and people still actually care enough about ISU Men's Basketball to ***** about it. Just be glad that we aren't at the stage that Iowa Basketball has entered into. Also keep it in the back of your head that we aren't as far away from joining them as you would like to think.
I said "I wonder if...", not an indictment, just making sure you were being consistent. I live in Iowa City and attend a few Iowa football games a year. I am completely able to comment on Iowa athletics objectively, and with your buddies "shock jock" type broadcast, I do wonder if you have the ability to comment objectively on Iowa State athletics. Thats on you, not me.
So please tell me how Steve did not insult my morals given his statement above? Also the "Up yours comment"?
I am not attacking you Jon, I just don't like the way your show this morning portrays those of us who support the deciscion Coach McD made.
I am not attacking you Jon, I just don't like the way your show this morning portrays those of us who support the deciscion Coach McD made.
Jon Miller - please reply to this post above that I quoted...
Also, I caught a bit of the show this morning. One thing I just could not understand that Deace kept saying is "why not cheat in recruiting? Why not practice more than NCAA allows? why not pay players?" ...he kept referencing very illegal things. "If Mac is going to go against his principal here, why just do this and that too!?" He kept referencing cheating. He was referencing violations of College Basketball. NONE of those things is related to what Mac did. Mac suspended Colvin because of what he did to the team. Not an NCAA rule. The suspension had literally NOTHING to do with the NCAA or violations towards the NCAA. What Deace was referring to were blatant, dirty, violations of the NCAA rules.
Don't give me this crap that "rules are rules no matter what." There's a big, big, BIG difference between suspending a player for a bad attitude and blatantly cheating. What Greg did in this Colvin situation had NOTHING TO DO WITH CHEATING, so please tell that tubby buddy Steve of yours to get that through his head. It was so annoying, I had to turn the station.
If you don't agree with what Greg did, fine, that's your opinion. But do not equate it to cheating. If you want to go with the whole "doing what it takes to win at all costs" thing, fine, but again, stay away from the cheating part but Mac simply hasn't done it. And he hasn't lied to the media either the past 4 seasons, so why is it so hard to believe he truly felt he was playing Colvin so he wouldn't punish the other scholarship players? Is his reasoning THAT far fetched?
I listened this morning...Jon and Deace blew this up into something bigger than it was. Plus they didn't have all the facts, but I found it entertaining.
He's just bitter that he failed at running a cyclone site. Jealousy is a strong emotion.
For one, they can't because most the time they don't really know all the facts. They see the main point and go from there. I suppose this is true for most teams but it really seems to be exaggerated by Iowa fans talking about the Clones. I, for one, don't really care about the Hawks unless we play them. I agree, a lot of Clone fans will bang on the Hawks any chance they get. Hawk fans do the same thing very often but since all we ever get in the news is a little blip, sometimes Hawks make up the rest of the story. Usually, when something happens with the Hawks the whole story is out there. Iowa fans or ISU fans cannot comment on the other one objectively. There is always going to be bias.
It's not a democracy.
What's the point of having a coach? May as well just have a ballot box in the locker room and one on the bench.
Should we press? Yes or No?
Who should start?
If we might need a timeout, the players on the bench could huddle like they did on Family Feud.
Survey says, "Coward".
One would argue that we did not need his 7 minutes of contribution which lead to zero points, 2 fouls, and many poor shots.
And This.
But Steve Deace would have you believe that Mac is now up there with the worst of the worst cheaters and violators in college athletics.
Somehow, an internal team suspension is related to breaking the rules of a sport.
I do take some relief in knowing that Mac was not rewarded from compromising his integrity.
By him being on the court one could argue that it gave Mac the opportunity to coach the other guards. Can't do much in game coaching if they never can sit down.
