Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
So far it's all been refuted by JP and Fred on Murph & Andy.
So far it's all been refuted by JP and Fred on Murph & Andy.
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Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Yep - I am 100% sure Hines could find some sources to spew crap. Especially anonymous.
100% sure JP and CFH did not see eye to eye on everything. To expect so is to be a fool.
100% sure CFH would not take the immediate time to refute the general gist of the "story" if he did not feel it was a BS move.
100% laughing at the people that swallowed this hook, line and sinker and sharpened up the JP pitchforks.
100% pleased their posts are recorded here for posterity. So much humor.
Yep - I am 100% sure Hines could find some sources to spew crap. Especially anonymous.
100% sure JP and CFH did not see eye to eye on everything. To expect so is to be a fool.
100% sure CFH would not take the immediate time to refute the general gist of the "story" if he did not feel it was a BS move.
100% laughing at the people that swallowed this hook, line and sinker and sharpened up the JP pitchforks.
100% pleased their posts are recorded here for posterity. So much humor.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
All journalist do this because a lot of the people who give this type of information lose their jobs then the journalists lose their sources and in turn their jobs. If you only cover information that anyone can get them well you're kind of worthless as a journalist.
All journalist do this because a lot of the people who give this type of information lose their jobs then the journalists lose their sources and in turn their jobs. If you only cover information that anyone can get them well you're kind of worthless as a journalist.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
He is a bad journalist if he can't tell that this is fishy. The whole thing was weird from the beginning.
He is a bad journalist if he can't tell that this is fishy. The whole thing was weird from the beginning.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Well he just made a big mistake, so calling him a excellent journalist is debatable.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Who do we want fired now? I'm getting lost!
Who do we want fired now? I'm getting lost!
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
This reeks of a small town newspaper desperate for traffic.
This reeks of a small town newspaper desperate for traffic.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Re-Hire JP!
Re-Hire JP!
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Unless Hines is lying, the article says he talked to "double digit" people who all said the same thing. To me, multiple donors were in on this axe grinding.
Unless Hines is lying, the article says he talked to "double digit" people who all said the same thing. To me, multiple donors were in on this axe grinding.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
I tried yesterday, but so much Hawk crap every time I check in, I couldn't take it. Was just getting the play by play here today, much easier than actually listening.
I tried yesterday, but so much Hawk crap every time I check in, I couldn't take it. Was just getting the play by play here today, much easier than actually listening.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Even if there is still merit to this story Travis did himself no favors by what appears to be blatantly ignoring the process of fact checking and not giving JP more of an opportunity to refute the sources.
Even if there is still merit to this story Travis did himself no favors by what appears to be blatantly ignoring the process of fact checking and not giving JP more of an opportunity to refute the sources.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Probably going to be "Fire Me" if I don't stop clicking this thread, but it's so hard to look away from the carnage...
Probably going to be "Fire Me" if I don't stop clicking this thread, but it's so hard to look away from the carnage...
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
A lot of people need to go back and read what they posted a couple hours ago. And not surprisingly, I wouldn't expect any less from those who jumped to the fastest conclusions. Critical thinking is a gift not a lot of you have.
A lot of people need to go back and read what they posted a couple hours ago. And not surprisingly, I wouldn't expect any less from those who jumped to the fastest conclusions. Critical thinking is a gift not a lot of you have.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
He did contact JP, who's reaction made it all the more plausible for him to publish it. Then JP back tracks on the radio and takes shots at Hines.
He did contact JP, who's reaction made it all the more plausible for him to publish it. Then JP back tracks on the radio and takes shots at Hines.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Fred will always put isu first doesnt mean there is 0 truth to the article. I would have left out the hawaii trip bc that just seems ridiculous. I thought JP seemed cheap way before this article but i dont fully understand the restraints he has to work with. ISU is not a national brand but the basketball team should be held in a higher regard since it is one of the few programs that does well and makes money
Fred will always put isu first doesnt mean there is 0 truth to the article. I would have left out the hawaii trip bc that just seems ridiculous. I thought JP seemed cheap way before this article but i dont fully understand the restraints he has to work with. ISU is not a national brand but the basketball team should be held in a higher regard since it is one of the few programs that does well and makes money
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Some people already have their mind made up that they want JP out.
Some people already have their mind made up that they want JP out.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
This article/smear story is the exact opposite of something an excellent journalist would publish. Never had a strong opinion on hines either way until now. What a clown.
This article/smear story is the exact opposite of something an excellent journalist would publish. Never had a strong opinion on hines either way until now. What a clown.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
Here's my guess:
There is some truth to the parts about friction between Pollard and Hoiberg, especially about how they touted his pay, possibly about some of the other stuff. The rest was from an ex assistant coach with an axe to grind and/or Hines taking some small complaints from people around the program ("man, it sucked we had to check out and then wait around in the lobby", "I hate having to buy tickets", etc...) and blowing them up as if they were real issues.
Here's my guess:
There is some truth to the parts about friction between Pollard and Hoiberg, especially about how they touted his pay, possibly about some of the other stuff. The rest was from an ex assistant coach with an axe to grind and/or Hines taking some small complaints from people around the program ("man, it sucked we had to check out and then wait around in the lobby", "I hate having to buy tickets", etc...) and blowing them up as if they were real issues.
Re: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
This is all on Hines. Think about it. He used un-named sources, which he apparently couldn't even precisely enumerate and presented what they told him as fact, obviously without doing enough fact-checking. If all he did was check with JP the day before publishing, and did not follow up what JP probably told him with Fred.......then he is an idiot as a journalist, and probably needs to move on to a smaller town or something. It seems pretty obvious now that the article was written for sensationalism or something. Whatever his plan was in writing it, it seems to have backfired badly.
This is all on Hines. Think about it. He used un-named sources, which he apparently couldn't even precisely enumerate and presented what they told him as fact, obviously without doing enough fact-checking. If all he did was check with JP the day before publishing, and did not follow up what JP probably told him with Fred.......then he is an idiot as a journalist, and probably needs to move on to a smaller town or something. It seems pretty obvious now that the article was written for sensationalism or something. Whatever his plan was in writing it, it seems to have backfired badly.
