Rhoads' Contract
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You might very well get showered with excuses on why it is much easier to be successful at those schools then at ISU.
After last season, I posted a somewhat similar analysis on the success of coaches who don't have a break-out season within the first four years in the major conferences. It's not good. Cutcliffe is one of the 4 or 5 that managed to do it. The vast majority who don't break out by year 4 never do at that school.
And they aren't necessarily wrong. Baylor and South Carolina are southern schools and easier to recruit to. Not to mention Spurrier was already a successful HC before going to USCe. Wake and Duke have easier schedules in the ACC than we do in the Big 12. Kansas and K-State are the closest comparisons.
But they all had their disadvantages as well. I'd say all but South Carolina were in worse shape than we were when Rhoads took over. And I don't think any ISU fans are demanding the 10 or 11 win seasons accomplished by any of the coaches I listed. 8 wins would be considered a massive success.
This is something that has worried me since 2012. That was our year to "break-out", but we squandered it with an awful offense.
NO. That is the problem. The naysayers are pining for the days of Dan McCarney. HOW MANY Ranked teams did Dan McCarney beat while at Iowa State? HOW MANY Road Conference Games did Dan McCarney win at Iowa State? How Many Ranked Conference Teams did Dan McCarney beat while at Iowa State?
Thank god CPR had so many of Mac's recruits starting for him in year 1 and also in year 2 (you know, CPR's best teams)!
When Mac was here some folks wanted Walden back on the sidelines.
Must be the nature of the beast, however I'm glad North Texas isn't on the schedule this season
Could you imagine if North Texas was coming to Ames this week and Danny Mac put a hurtin' on us? Wow... now that would put some salt in the wound, wouldn't it? I think I'd laugh probably. Kind of like I did after last Saturday's game. Sometimes things look so bad you have no other choice but to laugh.
Photoshop experts...can one of you take the picture below, replace the blue with cardinal or gold, put DMAC's face over superman, and change the S on his chest to DMAC...and then moderators, please forcibly change Tornado Man's avatar to that?
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NO Texas or Oklahoma in 2009. Easy Schedule compared to now. We win 7 games. We played only 2 ranked teams. In 2010, we played 6 ranked teams. In 2011, we played 5 ranked teams. In 2012, we played 4 ranked teams. In 2013, we played 4 ranked teams.
In 2000, we played 2 ranked teams, got blown out in both games.....once by 22 points and once by 46 points......yet we won 9 games. In 2001, we played 2 ranked teams. In 2002, we played 6 ranked teams. In 2003, we played 5 ranked teams. In 2004, we played 1 ranked team. In 2005, we played 2 ranked teams. In 2006, we played 4 ranked teams.
Have you noticed a trend??? DMAC's success was mostly due to easy schedules with only a couple ranked teams on the schedule. Rhoads had one such easy schedule his first year......and won 7 games.
We are stuck with difficult schedules from here on out. Paul Rhoads has HALF of the TOTAL number of Road Victories over ranked opponents that Iowa State has won. And he did that in 5 years.
Yes, I think that Rhoads is still the man for the job. Pretty stupid to fire him right now considering what he has done so far and considering that he is the most successful coach we have had in over 30 years. And we are now getting better recruiting classes.
In 2000, we played 2 ranked teams, got blown out in both games.....once by 22 points and once by 46 points......yet we won 9 games. In 2001, we played 2 ranked teams. In 2002, we played 6 ranked teams. In 2003, we played 5 ranked teams. In 2004, we played 1 ranked team. In 2005, we played 2 ranked teams. In 2006, we played 4 ranked teams.
Have you noticed a trend??? DMAC's success was mostly due to easy schedules with only a couple ranked teams on the schedule. Rhoads had one such easy schedule his first year......and won 7 games.
We are stuck with difficult schedules from here on out. Paul Rhoads has HALF of the TOTAL number of Road Victories over ranked opponents that Iowa State has won. And he did that in 5 years.
Yes, I think that Rhoads is still the man for the job. Pretty stupid to fire him right now considering what he has done so far and considering that he is the most successful coach we have had in over 30 years. And we are now getting better recruiting classes.
Yeah, I've noticed a "trend" - CPR has lost to two 1-AA teams in a row. Mac never lost to one...
I will take a win over a ranked Conference team any day. Especially on the road.
There's a part of me that pines for the McCarney days - the days when we at least threatened to win division championships, even though a big part of that was not because ISU was anything special but because the North was anything but special.
That being said, I DO NOT want McCarney back. Been there, done that, want better than that because, let's be honest, the only real difference between the two eras is we're not currently playing in a godawful Big 12 North.
You guys have convinced me to stand by CPR. Apparently he's building some sort of "system" here and it takes more than six years.
Let's all wait and see for one more year. Or maybe two. Systems take a long time to build, after all. With any good fortune, year eight will mark a return to Paul Rhoads' glory days of 8th place in the Big 12 and bowl losses to Conference USA.
Let's all wait and see for one more year. Or maybe two. Systems take a long time to build, after all. With any good fortune, year eight will mark a return to Paul Rhoads' glory days of 8th place in the Big 12 and bowl losses to Conference USA.
I'm not making the argument that Rhoads is the guy, but we had 3 above average years for ISU(let's face it, a bowl game is above average), one average year and one below average year thus far. We've played one game and we're already writing this off as another below average to terrible year. We could tank and I still think he comes back next year, so there really isn't an argument that needs to be made, I'm just along for the ride, and if we suck, damn, but will we really be that worse off after another year or two than we ever have been?
He either has amazing lawyers, or ISU's are awful. Maybe both, but he's walking away the winner....even though he's not a winner on the field currently.
Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? Where in the world did I state that I wanted the Cyclones to lose? How in the world would you get that out of my statement?
I said if we lost it would be pouring salt in our wounds. Does that sound like I would want to lose?
I want salt poured into my wounds?
I did say I'd probably laugh because things couldn't get much worse. As in, you laugh because crying doesn't do you any good at that point.
And Mac never beat a ranked conference team on the road. The Tech, Texas, and TCU wins on the road for CPR trump Mac's wins over UNI or Western Illinois, or whoever. That doesn't even account for Nebraska or the OSU win at home.
I'll admit that I am up in the air right now as far as CPR goes... but given the choice I would choose CPR over Mac any day of the week.
I'm of the opinion that we should let the season play out and see where it ends up.
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