Rumors of other Transfers?

Wesley

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So Oliver for medical and Dendy for low grades are still on the bubble.

Our mainstays are Boozer if his leg heals, JVB, SC, and DG for next year. Dorr and Bubu will be the second line of defense. The third line will be the boatload of newcomers.

Definitely one More First years.
 

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I have seen a lot of player's grade rebound over the summer. No way, JP or Mac let Dendy fail. Even if they have to twist a few arms to do it. A few D's or incompletes and he still plays. Happens all the time.

Damn straight it happens! I caught a basketball player with every sentence in a paper straight copy and paste and the professor overseeing the class said I could not turn him in because it would be impossible to "win" against the ADept.
 
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Damn straight it happens! I caught a basketball player with every sentence in a paper straight copy and paste and the professor overseeing the class said I could not turn him in because it would be impossible to "win" against the ADept. But I did get to make the rest of his semester a living hell.
So much for all that integrity.
 

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Looks like Jeremy got rid of CF just in time... Sorry CW, but these kids aren't any more fun than the geezer's on CR.
 

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So Oliver for medical and Dendy for low grades are still on the bubble.

Our mainstays are Boozer if his leg heals, JVB, SC, and DG for next year. Dorr and Bubu will be the second line of defense. The third line will be the boatload of newcomers.

Definitely one More First years.

Actually one upside to all of this mess is that I would love to see Boozer get 30 minutes a game. It may not be best, but it would be entertaining if he could keep up his hustle that long.
 

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Damn straight it happens! I caught a basketball player with every sentence in a paper straight copy and paste and the professor overseeing the class said I could not turn him in because it would be impossible to "win" against the ADept. But I did get to make the rest of his semester a living hell.

How grown up and mature of you. SO the unfairness was punishable by yet more unfairness. I really have a hard time with the people that seemingly hold a grudge against athletes that do get treated differently. They make the University money and some of them would not even be in college if they were not athletes. They get a few breaks. I don't have much of a problem with it. They entertain me, that is what they are here for.
 

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How grown up and mature of you. SO the unfairness was punishable by yet more unfairness. I really have a hard time with the people that seemingly hold a grudge against athletes that do get treated differently. They make the University money and some of them would not even be in college if they were not athletes. They get a few breaks. I don't have much of a problem with it. They entertain me, that is what they are here for.

By living hell I mean keeping him from cheating more and actually earning his grade. I had to move him during each test as he was cheating off people around him. To those who cheat, not just athletes, actually working to get a grade is hell to them. I did nothing unfair to him and I'm sorry you got that impression.
 

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By living hell I mean keeping him from cheating more and actually earning his grade. I had to move him during each test as he was cheating off people around him. To those who cheat, not just athletes, actually working to get a grade is hell to them. I did nothing unfair to him and I'm sorry you got that impression.
"I did get to make the rest of his semester a living Hell". Sounds like you enjoyed it. Had a professor pull the same thing on me. Didn't have any troubles passing his class, but because I was an athlete he had a chip on his shoulder. Lucky I didn't catch him off campus.
 

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Does anyone know if its true that some of the big donors (Jacobsen and the seed guy) had a late Friday night meeting with JP and GG? If so.....

Just asking the question. Sorry dude.

Do you mean Latham? If so, I doubt he donates a fraction of what is required to get an audience with the AD and Pres.
 

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"I did get to make the rest of his semester a living Hell". Sounds like you enjoyed it. Had a professor pull the same thing on me.

Why? Did you cheat? That was the case isuaggie seemed to be explaining?

Didn't have any troubles passing his class, but because I was an athlete he had a chip on his shoulder. Lucky I didn't catch him off campus.

Why? What were you gonna do?
 

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I think that anyone who says things have gone in a positive direction at any point after (maybe) year 1 of the McD era is just crazy and denying the facts.

We have never won more than 15 games with McD.
We have never been even close to a winning record in the Big 12.
We have lost player after player for various, vague reasons, many of which have turned out to not be true.
We have lost dozens of close games to teams we should have beaten, as well as blowouts that we should have contended in.
We have won 1 game that we shouldn't have against any team of consequence, this year v. K-State. Even more frustrating is that just showed what the team was capable of doing, this "best" team in years.
Our style of play has been extremely stagnant, and very few times has a player or the team overachieved. Most of the time, we've played much below our potential.
We have never won a Big 12 tournament game.
We had the most home losses in Hilton history EVER this year.
And, as someone pointed out, we are the only BCS conference team to play in ZERO postseason games of any type in the last 5 years.

You are right on target. In my opinion, without regard to any of these valid reports of mediocre production, this MBB program is a failure just by general observation, but if you want specifics, I've seen the majority of games the last four years. Not good. McDermott is way over his head.

POLLARD IS RESPONSIBLE AND IS A TOTAL FAILURE.

The ONLY BCS conference school.

If someone wants to defend that, go ahead.
 

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I've been had. Just saw the one line and got kind of angry. Reading Jamie's "explanation" of the basketball situation ****** me off earlier too. Of everything he could have done, he tried to put down Fennelly for one bad year of transfers and tried to blame everything on my generation of kids. I like a lot of what he's done, but JP really, REALLY ****** me off.

Here we go again, misrepresenting what JP writes to mean what you want it to mean. Has BF not lost a whole class of recruits. It ******* happened. He stated it happened. He did not say BF was a poor coach for it. Not even close. Read what is written and quit taking it out of context just so it can fit your agenda.
 

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Here we go again, misrepresenting what JP writes to mean what you want it to mean. Has BF not lost a whole class of recruits. It ******* happened. He stated it happened. He did not say BF was a poor coach for it. Not even close. Read what is written and quit taking it out of context just so it can fit your agenda.

Irregardless of what happened, I am in the camp that believes that there was no reason to bring in BF's recruiting issues into an issue regarding GMac. I don't care if BF loses half of his players, he wins with the ones he has. If Pollard wanted to prove a point, he needed to show us another school that loses an average of 3-4 athletes a year over the past 4 years that has been successful. Until he does that, I am failing to see any correlation between BF losing women this year, and Gmac's complete inability to keep players.
 
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I'm in that generation of kids, and I'll tell you right now: cut it out. When people look back on the past, they tend look at it in a brighter light than what actually happened. I work multiple jobs to help pay to put myself through school, and the vast majority of people that I know in "this generation of kids" do the same thing. Now, if you mean people aren't as prone to letting themselves get run over by overbearing leaders/bosses/coaches, then maybe yes. Kids might expect a little bit more from their leaders now than in the past, but is that a bad thing? I would think that a lesson we've learned from our past, from things like corporal punishment in schools or not allowing kids to talk until they are spoken to, would be that some of these things needed to change. A lot of people making this argument claim that they want kids to be more independent, but then when players decide to transfer from Iowa State because they think they can do more for themselves somewhere else, that's not OK.

Life is short, and the chances to play basketball at a competitive level for these players are very limited. They have a short window to try and get better to prove themselves if they want to play professionally. Do I like our transfers? No. Do I like the reasons given for our transfers? No. But, do I think players have the right to transfer if they think it will improve their situation? Yes. You shouldn't have to suffer through something if it is preventable. Maybe they could have been more picky in choosing to come to ISU, yes. However, that doesn't change where they are now, and what that situation is, and you can't change the past. You can only live in the present.

While you may be what you described above, you are incorrect IMO. Kids have a completely different idea of what work and respect are now. I am not saying you specifically, I am just saying in general. I knew way more people without jobs during college than I knew with them. I also saw a lot of things while there that made me about go crazy. There is a certain lack of respect in this generation. There is a lack of understanding of what it means to work for what you get. I knew a couple people who could never go out or do anything because they never had any money. They would rather be broke than get a part time job and have fun. My guess is that I was raised significantly differently than the majority of my generation but I was always amazed at what some people considered to be hard work and dedication. It just isn't the same now.
 

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Irregardless of what happened, I am in the camp that believes that there was no reason to bring in BF's recruiting issues into an issue regarding GMac. I don't care if BF loses half of his players, he wins with the ones he has. If Pollard wanted to prove a point, he needed to show us another school that loses an average of 3-4 athletes a year over the past 4 years that has been successful. Until he does that, I am failing to see any correlation between BF losing women this year, and Gmac's complete inability to keep players.

Maybe not but he did not call BF out or even indicate he was a poor coach. I believe his intent was to point out BF has been successful without holding on to every single player. People will make it what they want though to make JP look bad so I am probably wasting my time here.
 

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Irregardless of what happened, I am in the camp that believes that there was no reason to bring in BF's recruiting issues into an issue regarding GMac. I don't care if BF loses half of his players, he wins with the ones he has. If Pollard wanted to prove a point, he needed to show us another school that loses an average of 3-4 athletes a year over the past 4 years that has been successful. Until he does that, I am failing to see any correlation between BF losing women this year, and Gmac's complete inability to keep players.

Another low class move by an AD who has a big ego and no big time experience.
Pollard has no class. Finnelly should be bothered.
 

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Another low class move by an AD who has a big ego and no big time experience.
Pollard has no class. Finnelly should be bothered.


Look at the Directors Cup, Our Football, WBB, Volleyball, and wrestling program. Then I encourage you to look at the our budget compared to when he got here. Those numbers alone do not do justice. He has also cut the State funding for the AD therefor increasing donations and such more than actually shown by pure budget numbers. You are wrong here without a doubt. You can continue to do this if you like but I will continue to correct your garbage.

I would dismiss this as a typo however "I" and "E" are nowhere near each other. I question you knowledge on ISU athletics because of this. Paired with your ignorance on what JP has done, I would classify you as a troll.
 
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