Texas forums/CF agree: new big 12 is 2nd tier G5 (edit)

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Texas in a nude scene is pretty much like Betty White topless.
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Trashy, fake-titted Texas thinks her man doesn’t treat her well because he makes a few rude comments but he still lets her drive the nice car and drink Starbucks 18 times a day. So she said fuckyou and went on to her next husband, looking for “true love” only to find out he’s gonna steal her money and lock her in the basement for decades and treat her like the wh*re that she is.
 

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Texas just lost three straight to Iowa State. The upcoming SEC beatdowns will not be something they aren't already experiencing..
Yeah, Texas already sucks. They’ll be about the same in the SEC imo.

It will be interesting to see how their fans cope. On one hand, they’ll be losing to more programs that even UT knows they’ll never be, but on the other hand they can’t continue to blame conference affiliation.
 

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So you agree Texas is doing intentional harm to ISU and other schools.

Curious, what other magical conference will ISU join? Big Ten will NEVER add ISU, and if you think Iowa wants us there instead of in the wilderness like the Hayden Fry years you are mistaken.

The new Big12 will be just fine moving forward, probably 3rd best conference after SEC and then Big Ten. And, we won't have to deal with being held hostage like we have for decades.
He’s not wrong. ISU will absolutely jump ship it offered by the Big Ten or Pac. And they should. You can try to pump this new conference up all you want, but it won’t be 3rd best in the nation. That’s just reality. Reality is also that ISU, at least currently, doesn’t have any better option. The two ideas don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
 

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Yeah, Texas already sucks. They’ll be about the same in the SEC imo.

It will be interesting to see how their fans cope. On one hand, they’ll be losing to more programs that even UT knows they’ll never be, but on the other hand they can’t continue to blame conference affiliation.

You have to remember that even though the SEC is a good conference, there are going to be years where between November's FCS-fest and unbalanced scheduling where they might play 2 really good teams, 2-3 decent teams and 7-8 **** teams.

They will win their games, because a 5 win Big 12 team can be just fine in a lot of years given how most of the SEC teams schedule.
 

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He’s not wrong. ISU will absolutely jump ship it offered by the Big Ten or Pac. And they should. You can try to pump this new conference up all you want, but it won’t be 3rd best in the nation. That’s just reality. Reality is also that ISU, at least currently, doesn’t have any better option. The two ideas don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

It will be third best in actual football
 

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This thread is so disappointing. I keep clicking on it thinking there will be more wonderfull Texas tears that we can all enjoy together, and instead it has turned into another tired conference debate, as if these same points haven't been made countless times in all the other threads that have gotten hijacked by this subject.
 

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He’s not wrong. ISU will absolutely jump ship it offered by the Big Ten or Pac. And they should. You can try to pump this new conference up all you want, but it won’t be 3rd best in the nation. That’s just reality. Reality is also that ISU, at least currently, doesn’t have any better option. The two ideas don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

Won't be third best in what way? Accounting for new members the Big 12 next year will be light years better on the field than the PAC, and probably the ACC as well.

5/12 of the new Big 12 are currently ranked. 5/28 (including ND) in the ACC and PAC combined are ranked.
 

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You have to remember that even though the SEC is a good conference, there are going to be years where between November's FCS-fest and unbalanced scheduling where they might play 2 really good teams, 2-3 decent teams and 7-8 **** teams.

They will win their games, because a 5 win Big 12 team can be just fine in a lot of years given how most of the SEC teams schedule.
Texas in the SEC won’t be much much different than Texas in the Big 12 imo.

Maybe one more “sure” loss a year. With their front-running culture, perhaps they initially get guys to show-up more often. The UT that beat UGa and gave LSU their best game, rather than the one that quits like on Saturday.

OU has MUCH more to lose and imo faces a bigger existential threat to their status. OU with one or two more losses a year the past decade is Ok St.
 

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maybe in practice but not necessarily in perception by media and fans. Perception is reality and Fox and ESPN can make us perceived as however they want.
The perception of the ACC and Pac12 is very bad and not better than the Big 12. That’s why they don’t get paid **** and horrible ratings

At one time they had a better perception in terms of stability, but that’s increasingly no longer true
 

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maybe in practice but not necessarily in perception by media and fans. Perception is reality and Fox and ESPN can make us perceived as however they want.

That’s why I said “actual football”.

The conference will be endlessly negged by ESPN, but that doesn’t mean it won’t routinely be better than the Pac 12 and ACC
 
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To me, this relates to Nebraska's Big 12 exit in a couple of ways. Obviously for both TX and NE, it is/was the money--isn't it always? However, I also felt--yeah, I know this is gonna be a stretch--the unspoken reason for NE bolting was that they couldn't beat TX. Now TX can't beat what it feels are their 'lessers.' Feels like deja vu all over again.


Remember what happened to Nebraska when they left the Big 12? These situations are eerily similar.
The common similarity is that they both left because of Texas' attitude.
 

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From Burnt Orange Nation's recap article. Fans are gonna run Sark out of town before the season ends.

The four-consecutive blown halftime leads are the most in the FBS in the last 15 seasons — the issues for first-year head coach Steve Sarkisian are historic after Texas fired Tom Herman following a 7-3 campaign and a tenure that never featured the type of defeats that have happened multiple times this season.

Herman never lost as badly as Texas lost to Arkansas. Herman never lost as badly as Texas lost to Iowa State. Herman never blew a 21-point lead like Texas did against Oklahoma. Herman never blew an 14-point lead like Texas did against Oklahoma State. Herman never blew an 11-point lead like Texas did against Baylor.

For the record defensively, Iowa State controlled the entire first half too... I guess I wouldn't call getting the absolute piss kicked out of you "blowing a halftime lead."