Texas Game Expectations (TX -17)

Who wins

  • Texas by 15+

    Votes: 132 31.7%
  • Texas by 8-14

    Votes: 148 35.6%
  • Texas by 1-7

    Votes: 69 16.6%
  • Iowa State by 1-7

    Votes: 54 13.0%
  • Iowa State by 8-14

    Votes: 7 1.7%
  • Iowa State by 15+

    Votes: 6 1.4%

  • Total voters
    416

Cloneman89

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I am going to this game! We are making the 13 hour drive. I am concentrating on ribs and bbq restaurants. The game is a side event - my love has slipped into indifference to CMC and his coach speak. Been around a long long time. No comment on score as that is ridiculous to attempt with a zero offense scheme!
 

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I am going to this game! We are making the 13 hour drive. I am concentrating on ribs and bbq restaurants. The game is a side event - my love has slipped into indifference to CMC and his coach speak. Been around a long long time. No comment on score as that is ridiculous to attempt with a zero offense scheme!
Wow, that’s a long drive for ribs and bbq.
 
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VeloClone

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Yes, Paul Rhoads best season and only bowl win. A game where the offense managed to put up 9 points. If Nebraska would have scored on 4 of those turnovers that were within the 5-yard line and only commits 4 turnovers total it is a 35-9 game.

This stat line just might win the game against Texas this weekend. It did require a TD to win that game in 2009 in Lincoln too.
Killjoy
 
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CyNews

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I am going to this game! We are making the 13 hour drive. I am concentrating on ribs and bbq restaurants. The game is a side event - my love has slipped into indifference to CMC and his coach speak. Been around a long long time. No comment on score as that is ridiculous to attempt with a zero offense scheme!
Hope CMC can help you see an upset!
 
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LtRaczack

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I can't speak for Joe, but here are patterns I see.

Overselling development and depth. This staff has 3 rbs in the league (4 if you count Hunt) and a rookie that is making serious waves. To say that this rb room is the deepest, may be technically true, but it certainly sets a perception. If what was meant to say was, previously we've had an A player with C backups, but now we have a room full of B+-B rbs, say something alluding to that. Only problem is, Brock has been on the team for 4 seasons now so that would seem to be a slight to him one way or the other, his ceiling or his floor. Perhaps C. Norton was the cause for those comments, time will tell. We've seen the same for years w/ oline development/depth. These comments can certainly be painted as "coach speak", but they influence fan expectations as well.

Offensive development/innovation and game-winning drives. It seems that ISU is an offensive philosophy vs doing what works. We want to be X version offense, and we try to make that happen vs adjusting to be successful. Also, not trying to highlight an individual player, but outside of the 2019 W against Tx I don't recall many games we've won where the offense has needed to have a go-ahead score to seal the win. Add to this bucket indecisiveness and generally sloppiness in playcalling, time management and execution when pressure mounts.

-- I hate to do this last one, but it's what I see at this stage in development at ISU

Philosophy lived or philosophy spoken. I truly believe Matt cares about his kids and in the larger, principled aspects of life and developing young men. And I also see that when the pressure rises and ISU is in a must-win or next-level opportunity, a return to core habits. I see a young coach that likely had to be coached to harness and control his aggression. In short, in nearly every game over the past handful of years where ISU could take that next step Matt has gone on tilt at some point. Attention to detail and precision seem to be desired areas of focus, but we seem to continually be beaten by teams that can execute on them better than we can.

Does ISU want to win the big game at all costs, or is honor more important than victory? I'm actually good with either answer, but the tension comes when you try to hold onto both. Answer that question and then authentically represent that.

If he does want to reach that next level that comes with getting big wins, change needs to occur. Is there anyone that has his ear to challenge him to reach that next level? Will he?

Will I?

back to work.
I really miss the victory with honor vibe that came from this. Do enjoy the long pass to Hakeem Butler in the Liberty Bowl:
 

drmwevr08

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Clones cover the spread but lose. Please prove me wrong Clones.
Probable. But you'll be wrong because they don't cover.

The only way we are competitive, let alone win, is if we are a completely different team than we've been to this point. While that'd be great, no way to 'predict it' you'd just be wishing.
I'm actually just hoping the D holds up because they have no reason to not throw everything at us, knowing our lack of O will cover for some mistakes of aggressiveness.
 
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CycloneErik

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Probable. But you'll be wrong because they don't cover.

The only way we are competitive, let alone win, is if we are a completely different team than we've been to this point. While that'd be great, no way to 'predict it' you'd just be wishing.
I'm actually just hoping the D holds up because they have no reason to not throw everything at us, knowing our lack of O will cover for some mistakes of aggressiveness.

I think we cover and then spend our time arguing whether we prefer losing games that are eye-bleeding ugly or games where we score 30, because somehow losing is the only option for our fans.
 

quasistellar

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I am going to this game! We are making the 13 hour drive. I am concentrating on ribs and bbq restaurants. The game is a side event - my love has slipped into indifference to CMC and his coach speak. Been around a long long time. No comment on score as that is ridiculous to attempt with a zero offense scheme!


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davegilbertson

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I really miss the victory with honor vibe that came from this. Do enjoy the long pass to Hakeem Butler in the Liberty Bowl:

I was thinking about the post-TCU speech that got leaked. Is that still the mantra? BS programs care about 7 win seasons?
 

davegilbertson

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I'm feeling a classic back against the wall Matt Campbell win tomorrow
I want to say I do as well, but I don't. Something is broke. Not going to pretend I know what the fix is, but all the CF guys had us winning against KU and I was not surprised by that outcome.

Generally hopeful optimist/realist that sees potential, but this team doesn't feel like it can go from the performances of the last three weeks to beating a team that took out OU 49-0.

Previous texas teams were beaten because they had been beaten mentally, toxic leadership from the top down. That's not there this year w/ UT. Not saying Sark has "brought them back", but don't think we'll be gifted a fake punt in this one.
 

t-noah

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Who you got?

What will the difference makers be?
Te$ux 41 - 10 ISU

I don't have a good feeling that this will be a bounce back game for our offense yet. I needed to see a little more in the last 3 games to have some hope. More likely, the defense will struggle also.

Certainly hope I'm wrong.

If defense remains stellar, or at least very good, Te$us 24 - 10 ISU.

Go Cyclones!
 

CYEATHAWK

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The only way ISU wins is if they flush the offensive game plan and break out something new.

Just like they did the defense in 17'.

This isn't going to be a trap game for UT having lost 3 straight. They do not want to make it 4 to a school like ISU.

So start throwing down field coach......and re-discover the tight ends or this could be a long Saturday. At 0-3 in the conference no sense in holding anything back or being scared to try something new.
 
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cyfan504

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Call me crazy but I think we either win or lose a close one. Yes, I know our offense needs alot of work, but our defense is TOP NOTCH. Also, it's a trap game for Texas.

We aren't that far away from a great team. We are 3 plays or 11 points away from being 3-0 in the conference and 6-0 overall with a Top 15 ranking.

HORNS DOWN, GO CYCLONES!!
 
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