W and L the 2010 Schedule

[Matador96]

Slow time of year getting Tech fans on the board. So did the majority of Tech fans want Leach gone or was it one of those things where it pretty much had to go that way? Tuberville was good at Auburn partly because when you say you are from Auburn football it opens a lot of doors in recruiting - will he still be able to recruit as well for Tech? I only ask this because Chizik came from Auburn & UT and did not know how to recruit to a program that was not a historic top ten program.

The thought on Mike was that we were paying over $2Million for one of the best (if not the best) OC in the country. But, defense wasn't really his thing. The whole Adam and Craig James thing took on a life of its own, and the AD and Mike never got along. Many Tech fans wanted to keep Ruffin McNeal and especially Lincoln Riley as our OC. Didn't work out that way, but they both landed at East Carolina.

As for Tubs, this year's recruting class was pretty good, especially since he only had 3 weeks to get them signed. We lost one stud WR from Florida to the University of Florida, but other than that, we did good. IMO, Chizik only used ISU and never really wanted to be there. I don't know if this will get me in trouble or not, but he's pretty much a POS. (Just my opinion). Will Tuberville do the same thing? Who knows. David McWilliams did that to Tech in 1987 to "go back home" to UT, and was out of coaching 3 years later.

Tubs is saying the right things, and is keeping the offense. Those are two things that Tech fans will demand without question. The "Air Raid" is now our identity--much like the wishbone and OU back in the 70's and 80's. We will run the ball more, but we will still be a pass first offense. If not, Tubs won't be in Lubbock very long, or we will be winning Championships. One of the two.


Also, he's raising money, and is making the program better. At the end of the day, that is all you can really ask of a HC now--did you make the program better.


We get UT early (September 18), and that will go a long way in determining our year. I expect OU to be down, or at least struggle. A&M will have problems, has an SEC fettish, and has unhealthy love for themselves. We get OSU at home, where they haven't won since the 40's. We go to Boulder, Ames, and get Missouri in Lubbock. We play Baylor in the Cotton Bowl.


If Sticks (Stephen Sheffield) starts, we have a chance to win any game on the schedule. He put of 21 point on NU last year, in Lincoln--not an easy feat. We have plenty of depth at the WR and RB positions. If the OL can stay healthy, we will not miss a beat on offense.


I've read where some think we will change the offense. By the looks of everything, we are not. The defense will be more (far more) agressive than in the past. If the young DB's can develop, we will be able to send 7 or 8. We practiced "zero" coverage in the Spring. If the DB's can be on an island, Tubs 3-4 will be just as much fun to watch as the offense.


Sorry for the long response. Been reading this board for years. Good banter, and you seem to have a disdain for the Univeristy of Iowa, and there's nothing wrong with that. Beat the hell out of NU before they bail--we've beat them the last four meetings.

 

[TarHeelHawk]

Without Maclin, I see Mizzou being almost equal to ISU but falling a little bit short. Maclin almost single handedly beat ISU last year. Without him, and with the game at Jack Trice gives ISU a great shot at a win in my opinion.

Didn't he play for the Eagles last year? According to the box score, Maclin didn't record a single stat.

Iowa State Cyclones vs. Missouri Tigers Box Score, November 21 2009 - NCAA College Football - ESPN

 

[Aclone]

Northern Illinois - W
@ Iowa - L
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - W
UNI - W
Texas Tech - W
Utah - W
@ Oklahoma - L
@ Texas - L
Kansas (Homecoming) - W
Nebraska - W
@ Colorado - W
Missouri - W

That would put us 9-3 (6-2) and likely land us in the Big XII Championship Game. Nebraska will lose to Texas, and we would have the tie-breaker by beating them in Ames...AGAIN!
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Being an optimist, I can't quibble a great deal with this...if (and that's a pretty bif "if") the offense gels into a 400ypg+ unit, and the restructured defense is respectable--approaching last year's performance. :biggrin:

 

[GM816]

Didn't he play for the Eagles last year? According to the box score, Maclin didn't record a single stat.

Iowa State Cyclones vs. Missouri Tigers Box Score, November 21 2009 - NCAA College Football - ESPN

Yes, Maclin went in the first round to the eagles in the 09 draft. Also, to the poster that said "missouri's new QB", it is Gabbert's second year as starter.

Also, MU returns (tied) the most starters of any team in the big12. They will be a contender. Although Nebraska will be the north favorite, MU will be a close second. They should win 10 games by years end.

 

[JUKEBOX]

Didn't he play for the Eagles last year? According to the box score, Maclin didn't record a single stat.

Iowa State Cyclones vs. Missouri Tigers Box Score, November 21 2009 - NCAA College Football - ESPN

Woops, I got him and Danario Alexander mixed up..

 

[CrossCyed]

Without Alexander, I see Mizzou being almost equal to ISU but falling a little bit short. Alexander almost single handedly beat ISU last year. Without him, and with the game at Jack Trice gives ISU a great shot at a win in my opinion.

Fair enough. Count me as a Gabbert fan, though.

 

[FinallyADefense]

Tech losing Leach is huge - he made Tech relavent by having a unique offense and put them on the map. Tuberville changing the offense to a more traditional offense takes the uniquness away which means they lose what made them unique and will hurt them in recruiting. I would be surprised if Tuberville works in Lubbuck.

Tuberville changing the offense to a more traditional offense...

Tuberville is not running the offense...Neal Brown will be. He's a young, hotshot OC, and will run a SIMILAR system to Leach, although not entirely the same, which will be good.

Here's a video of what Coach Brown's offense was like at Troy, and, as you can see, it's going to be similar.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPw2tS9lyMk]YouTube - WSFA Play by Play - Troy vs. LSU[/ame]

Futhermore, a lot of people look at Tuberville's last year at AU, and his failed experiment to the spread. What they don't see, is the differences he has made in his approach with Tech. When Tubs hired Franklin, Franklin wasn't allowed to bring any offensive assts with him, and Tubs kept his old offensive asst coaches, who never really bought into the scheme, or didn't know how to teach it. Plus, they didn't have the players to run it.

This time with Tech, Brown brought in his own coaches, and kept some from Tech. Brown brought in Chad Scott (RB coach from Troy), kept Matt Moore on staff (OL coach), promoted Sonny Cumbie (former Tech QB under Leach, and a GA last year) to WR coach, brought in Tommy Mainord from Lamar.

Each, and every one of Brown's coaches have a familiarity of the Spread, and they ALL can recruit.

On defense, James Willis (former LB coach for 'Bama) will be the DC, but make no mistake about it, this will be Tubs' defense. Tech will run a base 3-4, but, this is really just to be able to make it easier to switch to a nickel. So, we will show 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5, etc. Our corners will press the WR's at the LOS, and we will be bringing blitzes from every angle.

I really don't see our defense being ANY worse than it has been in the past, and will only get better.

Anyone who is expecting to see Tech on the decline, only because Leach isn't in LBK anymore, will be sadly mistaken.

I never realized Tech had the equivalent of Bear Bryant roaming the sidelines!:biglaugh:

 

[JUKEBOX]

Tuberville changing the offense to a more traditional offense...

Tuberville is not running the offense...Neal Brown will be. He's a young, hotshot OC, and will run a SIMILAR system to Leach, although not entirely the same, which will be good.

Here's a video of what Coach Brown's offense was like at Troy, and, as you can see, it's going to be similar.

YouTube - WSFA Play by Play - Troy vs. LSU

Futhermore, a lot of people look at Tuberville's last year at AU, and his failed experiment to the spread. What they don't see, is the differences he has made in his approach with Tech. When Tubs hired Franklin, Franklin wasn't allowed to bring any offensive assts with him, and Tubs kept his old offensive asst coaches, who never really bought into the scheme, or didn't know how to teach it. Plus, they didn't have the players to run it.

This time with Tech, Brown brought in his own coaches, and kept some from Tech. Brown brought in Chad Scott (RB coach from Troy), kept Matt Moore on staff (OL coach), promoted Sonny Cumbie (former Tech QB under Leach, and a GA last year) to WR coach, brought in Tommy Mainord from Lamar.

Each, and every one of Brown's coaches have a familiarity of the Spread, and they ALL can recruit.

On defense, James Willis (former LB coach for 'Bama) will be the DC, but make no mistake about it, this will be Tubs' defense. Tech will run a base 3-4, but, this is really just to be able to make it easier to switch to a nickel. So, we will show 3-4, 4-3, 4-2-5, etc. Our corners will press the WR's at the LOS, and we will be bringing blitzes from every angle.

I really don't see our defense being ANY worse than it has been in the past, and will only get better.

Anyone who is expecting to see Tech on the decline, only because Leach isn't in LBK anymore, will be sadly mistaken.

I never realized Tech had the equivalent of Bear Bryant roaming the sidelines!:biglaugh:

Man, I'm suprised at all the Tech fans reading CycloneFanatic!
Anyway, I believe it will take Tech at least two years to adjust to the offense. ISU had a very similar situation last year, and our offense hasn't developed yet.

 

[el tornado]

I'd be happy with the 9-3 scenario, but realistically don't see that happening. In fact the Northern Illinois game is no sure thing, NIU is ranked ahead of us in most magazines and they have a very good coach in Jerry Kill who was a wizard at Southern Illinois for years before taking the NIU job 3 years ago. That said, the NIU game is critical for our team if we are thinking about a bowl.

 

[Clinton]

Northern Illinois - win
@ Iowa - loss by 3 tds, though as always, if there's ever a time to beat the fundamental kirkys the beginning of the year would be it
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - close loss, admittedly a tossup game
UNI - close win
Texas Tech - we don't beat texas teams in football unless they start with "B"...loss
Utah - how could anybody with a brain consider this a "tossup"? and i don't want the "they're in a second tier conference" poop...we're in a major conference and we'd still, in all likelihood, lose to a third of the teams in the mountain west and another third would compete against us...LOSS
@ Oklahoma - rake the leaves saturday
@ Texas - bend over
Kansas (Homecoming) - reesing gone= splattered jayhawk on the windshield. defense will hopefully have some cohesion at this point
Nebraska - i'm noticing this as a trendy pick for a surprise W. i'm not a trendy person. LOSS
@ Colorado - we put the meager buffaloes out to pasture in our final flick off gesture for alienating the conference..WIN
Missouri - offense just too explosive and an angry tiger claws the **** out our whirling dervish pseudo bird...loss

Look, i've been a cyclone fan my whole life. I find it laughable that some of you consider these games as wins. Maybe I'm jaded by years of not closing things out by McCarney, or maybe I'm still upset about buying my Gene Chizik coin and having to pawn it to cash for gold. I see us finishing a respectable 4-8 during CPR's second year.

Additionally, I highly doubt that Paul Rhoads saved your life.

 

[Matador96]

Man, I'm suprised at all the Tech fans reading CycloneFanatic!
Anyway, I believe it will take Tech at least two years to adjust to the offense. ISU had a very similar situation last year, and our offense hasn't developed yet.

Ummm.....yeah. We've been running the spread for about 10 years, so there really isn't anything to "adjust" to. We have the players not only to run the offense, but also know the offense. I don't think you can really compare where ISU was last year, and where Tech is today from a player, personnel, fan, or historical standpoint when talking about running the spread.

 

[weR138]

Ummm.....yeah. We've been running the spread for about 10 years, so there really isn't anything to "adjust" to. We have the players not only to run the offense, but also know the offense. I don't think you can really compare where ISU was last year, and where Tech is today from a player, personnel, fan, or historical standpoint when talking about running the spread.

El primo de los matador,

With respect - as long as the coaches are different people there will be adjustments. Tubs has said he wants to run more; that will be an adjustment.

 

[supertone]

Not that it matters, but Missouri will have a deep and talented WR group this year. Denario's amazing season overshadowed the quality of the other guys. Danario was the #1 target, not because others weren't capable, but because he was getting himself open against double and triple coverage. The young QB (Gabbert) became comfortable with that as the season went on. If you look at the early season numbers, it was much more evenly distributed because Gabbert hadn't worked in that familiarity with Danario.

After all that, though, the biggest change for MU will be the return of Derrick Washington. He should be 100% healthy. Hopefully he can return to his 19 TD performance of 2008.

 

[CycloneNC2015]

I'm right between a 5-7 and 6-6, but I'm really trying to understand why so many of my fellow fans are considering nebraska a toss-up. Seriously? We might have had the biggest fluke win in college football history last year against them, and now it's a toss-up game? Please let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I wouldnt call it a fluke. We played a hell of a defensive game. If our defense plays like it did last year we should be able to take this game. I dont see why our defense cant stand up to them. We won last year when everything was stacked agianst us, we now get them at home.

 

[CPRsavedMYlife]

ISU will make a bowl.
If ISU beats Nebraska, we will win the North. If Nebraska beats ISU they will win the North.
Just my gut feeling.

I couldn't agree more. Mizzou doesn't worry me in the slightest.

CPR will have the team team fired up for that game against the cowards from NU. CPR will retire from ISU being undefeated against the cowards.

 

[CPRsavedMYlife]

Additionally, I highly doubt that Paul Rhoads saved your life.

Wow, excuse me for trying to have a little fun. You would think someone with a Bill Clinton username and avatar would know a thing or two about enjoying life and living in the moment.

 

[RustShack]

I think he saved your life. Look at all this energy hes brought to the Cyclones Nation.

 

[jahfg]

This is a quality thread. Good info from TT fans. I wish we could get more opposing fans here to talk football.

 

[cygrads]

The thought on Mike was that we were paying over $2Million for one of the best (if not the best) OC in the country. But, defense wasn't really his thing. The whole Adam and Craig James thing took on a life of its own, and the AD and Mike never got along. Many Tech fans wanted to keep Ruffin McNeal and especially Lincoln Riley as our OC. Didn't work out that way, but they both landed at East Carolina.

As for Tubs, this year's recruting class was pretty good, especially since he only had 3 weeks to get them signed. We lost one stud WR from Florida to the University of Florida, but other than that, we did good. IMO, Chizik only used ISU and never really wanted to be there. I don't know if this will get me in trouble or not, but he's pretty much a POS. (Just my opinion). Will Tuberville do the same thing? Who knows. David McWilliams did that to Tech in 1987 to "go back home" to UT, and was out of coaching 3 years later.

Tubs is saying the right things, and is keeping the offense. Those are two things that Tech fans will demand without question. The "Air Raid" is now our identity--much like the wishbone and OU back in the 70's and 80's. We will run the ball more, but we will still be a pass first offense. If not, Tubs won't be in Lubbock very long, or we will be winning Championships. One of the two.


Also, he's raising money, and is making the program better. At the end of the day, that is all you can really ask of a HC now--did you make the program better.


We get UT early (September 18), and that will go a long way in determining our year. I expect OU to be down, or at least struggle. A&M will have problems, has an SEC fettish, and has unhealthy love for themselves. We get OSU at home, where they haven't won since the 40's. We go to Boulder, Ames, and get Missouri in Lubbock. We play Baylor in the Cotton Bowl.


If Sticks (Stephen Sheffield) starts, we have a chance to win any game on the schedule. He put of 21 point on NU last year, in Lincoln--not an easy feat. We have plenty of depth at the WR and RB positions. If the OL can stay healthy, we will not miss a beat on offense.


I've read where some think we will change the offense. By the looks of everything, we are not. The defense will be more (far more) agressive than in the past. If the young DB's can develop, we will be able to send 7 or 8. We practiced "zero" coverage in the Spring. If the DB's can be on an island, Tubs 3-4 will be just as much fun to watch as the offense.


Sorry for the long response. Been reading this board for years. Good banter, and you seem to have a disdain for the Univeristy of Iowa, and there's nothing wrong with that. Beat the hell out of NU before they bail--we've beat them the last four meetings.

The bolded part made me laugh out loud!:notworthy:
Welcome to the board and feel free to post at will.

 

[besserheimerphat]

Ummm.....yeah. We've been running the spread for about 10 years, so there really isn't anything to "adjust" to. We have the players not only to run the offense, but also know the offense. I don't think you can really compare where ISU was last year, and where Tech is today from a player, personnel, fan, or historical standpoint when talking about running the spread.

There will still be an adjustment period. Each coach uses different terminology to describe techniques that are basically the same. So even the veteran players will have to start the year saying "Okay, the new coach calls it X, which I'm used to hear being called Y." They will also likely have to make some minor adjustments like either running very crisp routes and sacrificing some speed or running "rounded-off" routes to keep their stride. Not big changes, but things they'll have to think about.

The other thing I've read about Leach was how he simplified the offense from a "playbook" to a conceptual pamphlet. Guys only ran a few individual routes - they just changed where they started on the snap. Will Tuberville keep things that simple? Will Tuberville devote nearly 90% of his total practice time to route running and 7 on 7 drills like Leach reportedly did? That's got a lot to do with how well his offense worked.