W and L the 2010 Schedule

[cyclones500]

Look, i've been a cyclone fan my whole life. I find it laughable that some of you consider these games as wins. Maybe I'm jaded by years of not closing things out by McCarney, or maybe I'm still upset about buying my Gene Chizik coin and having to pawn it to cash for gold. I see us finishing a respectable 4-8 during CPR's second year.

I've been an ISU fan long enough to understand the "jaded" factor. That's why I'm hesitant to set the bar too high. I would love to go 8-5/9-4 with a bowl win. It isn't impossible, but I just can't see counting on it. If it happens -- woo-woo! Even better.

On the other hand, I'm tired of accepting near-mediocrity, as an expectation. I don't find 4-8 "respectable." That record would be understandable with this schedule —*but still sub-par.

 

[GM816]

I wouldnt call it a fluke. We played a hell of a defensive game. If our defense plays like it did last year we should be able to take this game. I dont see why our defense cant stand up to them. We won last year when everything was stacked agianst us, we now get them at home.

Not trying to be a ****, but calling that "a hell of a defensive game" might be a little much. And I know you won't acknowledge this, but one of those goal line fumbles was blown dead before the fumble, so ISU was one botched call from being +7 in turnovers and still losing.

If you're counting on more wins next season because of +8 turnover margins, I wouldn't hold your breath.

You got your win over NU. You have the bragging rights for the year. But when we win in Ames no way you can get mad when someone bumps this thread.

All of this directed at OP, btw.

 

[CrossCyed]

Not trying to be a ****, but calling that "a hell of a defensive game" might be a little much. And I know you won't acknowledge this, but one of those goal line fumbles was blown dead before the fumble, so ISU was one botched call from being +7 in turnovers and still losing.

If you're counting on more wins next season because of +8 turnover margins, I wouldn't hold your breath.

You got your win over NU. You have the bragging rights for the year. But when we win in Ames no way you can get mad when someone bumps this thread.

All of this directed at OP, btw.

Any time you force 8 turnovers is a hell of a defensive game.

That being said, we were an opportunistic defensive team last year, but far from a good defensive team.

 

[Sloup]

Any time you force 8 turnovers is a hell of a defensive game.

That being said, we were an opportunistic defensive team last year, but far from a good defensive team.

I don't know that the two fumbles by Helu and the one by Niles Paul were necessarily forced. The defense still did a fantastic job getting their hands on the ball, of course, but not all of the turnovers could be classified as forced, at least as I understand the word.

 

[GaryJohnson]

How is it that ISU forced 8 turnovers against Nebraska, but Iowa was gifted 6(?) turnovers against ISU? Because that is the standard meme here.

 

[AllIowaTeams]

How is it that ISU forced 8 turnovers against Nebraska, but Iowa was gifted 6(?) turnovers against ISU? Because that is the standard meme here.

:notworthy:

 

[AllIowaTeams]

Northern Illinois - W
@ Iowa - L
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - W
UNI - W
Texas Tech - L
Utah - L
@ Oklahoma - W (This is NOT your Oklahoma squad of 3 or 4 years ago)
@ Texas - L
Kansas (Homecoming) - W
Nebraska - L (Will be close, but can't see it happening 2 years in a row)
@ Colorado - W
Missouri - W (They will finally turn a new leaf)

I guess that has them at 6-6 in my book. They could certainly beat Nebraska since Nebraska's offense is laughable, and they no longer have Suh. Tech is winnable too, but I think a lot of people are underestimating Tubby.

 

[CrossCyed]

Northern Illinois - W
@ Iowa - L
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - W
UNI - W
Texas Tech - L
Utah - L
@ Oklahoma - W (This is NOT your Oklahoma squad of 3 or 4 years ago)
@ Texas - L
Kansas (Homecoming) - W
Nebraska - L (Will be close, but can't see it happening 2 years in a row)
@ Colorado - W
Missouri - W (They will finally turn a new leaf)

I guess that has them at 6-6 in my book. They could certainly beat Nebraska since Nebraska's offense is laughable, and they no longer have Suh. Tech is winnable too, but I think a lot of people are underestimating Tubby.

Take a gander at how many wins we have in Norman all time, and it makes it look like we fare well in Lincoln. I believe we have beat them twice, total, since 1960. We've won in Norman in 1931, 1961 and 1990. We've been in the same conference for a long time too.

 

[CycloneErik]

This is a quality thread. Good info from TT fans. I wish we could get more opposing fans here to talk football.

I'm impressed with TT fans as well. One of the better fanbases so far that's come around.

 

[westlbcyclone]

Northern Illinois - W
@ Iowa - L
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - W
UNI - W
Texas Tech - W
Utah - L
@ Oklahoma - L
@ Texas - L
Kansas (Homecoming) - W
Nebraska - W
@ Colorado - L
Missouri - W

7-5, however even at JTS a win vs Neb is probably a long shot...No matter how much it hurts to say.

 

[HILLCYD]

5 wins

Northern Illinois - W
@ Iowa - L
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - W
UNI - W
Texas Tech - W
Utah - L
@ Oklahoma - L
@ Texas - L
Kansas (Homecoming) - W
Nebraska - L
@ Colorado - L
Missouri - L

That is being very generous.

 

[ajk4st8]

Northern Illinois - W
@ Iowa - L
Kansas State (@ Arrowhead) - W
UNI - W
Texas Tech - L
Utah - L
@ Oklahoma - L
@ Texas - L
Kansas (Homecoming) - W
Nebraska - L
@ Colorado - W
Missouri - L

 

[TarHeelHawk]

Take a gander at how many wins we have in Norman all time, and it makes it look like we fare well in Lincoln. I believe we have beat them twice, total, since 1960. We've won in Norman in 1931, 1961 and 1990. We've been in the same conference for a long time too.

Didn't ISU beat them down there in the late 70's?

 

[TarHeelHawk]

How is it that ISU forced 8 turnovers against Nebraska, but Iowa was gifted 6(?) turnovers against ISU? Because that is the standard meme here.

Cause....ya know...it's different.

 

[ajk4st8]

Didn't ISU beat them down there in the late 70's?

No...

Since 1962 ISU is 1-38-1 against OU.

I dont see us EVER beating them or Texas. Oh well. Not a huge shocker.

 

[DJK15]

How is it that ISU forced 8 turnovers against Nebraska, but Iowa was gifted 6(?) turnovers against ISU? Because that is the standard meme here.

Yes, odd that.

 

[ajk4st8]

Yes, odd that.

Yeah that doesnt make sense to me either.

Nebraska gifted ISU 8 turnovers.
Iowa State gifted Iowa 6 TOs.

I hate how people try twisting it.

 

[lol]

Yeah that doesnt make sense to me either.

Nebraska gifted ISU 8 turnovers.
Iowa State gifted Iowa 6 TOs.

I hate how people try twisting it.

Which turnover in the Iowa game was where a wide receiver was running all by himself down the sideline for a 60 yard gain and then just accidentally kicked the ball off of his knee and an Iowa defender picked it up? I must have missed that one.

ISU actually did force a couple of those turnovers in the Nebraska game. Much like Iowa forced the majority of the turnovers in the Iowa-ISU game. But at least 3-4 of the turnovers in the ISU-Nebraska game were just simply flukes. The difference? Iowa won by 32. ISU won their game by 2. You see what I'm getting at here??

 

[cyclones500]

Which turnover in the Iowa game was where a wide receiver was running all by himself down the sideline for a 60 yard gain and then just accidentally kicked the ball off of his knee and an Iowa defender picked it up? I must have missed that one.

ISU actually did force a couple of those turnovers in the Nebraska game. Much like Iowa forced the majority of the turnovers in the Iowa-ISU game. But at least 3-4 of the turnovers in the ISU-Nebraska game were just simply flukes. The difference? Iowa won by 32. ISU won their game by 2. You see what I'm getting at here??

I'm not one of those ISU fans who talks about the forced TOs vs. NU and then turns around and compares it to the Iowa game. Apples-oranges all around.

As for the Nebraska game — except for the final 2 INTs, which came during do-or-die time, and the early interception, I think it's accurate to say the other five turnovers were (1) flukish due to the way those plays unfolded (where it happened on the field; need for review to uphold the calls on the field and (2) forced (or at least "gritty") because the defensive players stuck with the play ... I'll concede the "phantom drop" on the sideline play.

 

[lol]

I'm not one of those ISU fans who talks about the forced TOs vs. NU and then turns around and compares it to the Iowa game. Apples-oranges all around.

As for the Nebraska game — except for the final 2 INTs, which came during do-or-die time, and the early interception, I think it's accurate to say the other five turnovers were (1) flukish due to the way those plays unfolded (where it happened on the field; need for review to uphold the calls on the field and (2) forced (or at least "gritty") because the defensive players stuck with the play ... I'll concede the "phantom drop" on the sideline play.

Good points. I completely agree with this.