We've reached the McCarney point

[everyyard]

Coaches at ISU get 1, maybe 2 chances to seize the moment...max. McCarney had the 9-3 season and the shot against Missouri for the north title. Rhoads had the 2011 upset. At schools like OU these opportunities come all the time, but here if you miss it you don't always get another shot for momentum. You are done. We are probably at that point.

 

[CycloneErik]

It is possible for a program to turn around in one or two years and be successful, we've seen it in the B12. Not sure Paul is the guy to do it

If he was, he already would have.

 

[everyyard]

Left the game today before halftime. Can't ever remember even leaving in the third quarter before.

 

[dirtyninety]

Liberty Bowl.

American Conference.

 

[acody]

I would like a coach that doesn't lose to an FCS team two years in a row.

Totally dominated by an FCS team two years in a row. Might as well cut our losses now. Fire this staff. They are way over paid for the product we see on the field. Hire the North Dakota State staff for half the cost and get a more well coached team.

 

[NobodyBeatsCy]

First time I've ever left before halftime. Not sure there's a reason to go back this year. Two weeks preparation yielded that performance. I'm not mad because we didn't win. I'm mad because we didn't compete. As I drove home, I actually felt bad for Lazzard - he could have played for Notre Dame.

 

[everyyard]

What I liked about Rhoads early was that we seemed to be competing in games we usually weren't competitive in. We weren't necessarily winning them but I felt like on any given day we had a shot. Now, I don't even feel like we have a shot at Kansas.

 

[chilango]

In this era of college football parity these schools have been successful in recent years: Kansas State, Baylor, Ole Miss, Miss State, Duke, Northwestern. We could go on with other examples. At some point we need to quit making excuses, put on our big-boy pants, and compete at the Power 5 level. That's what everyone else does!

McCarney's success at North Texas proves the guy can coach. Not an elite coach, but a good coach. He had some horrible seasons but his best seasons in the Big 12 were much better than Rhoads so far. Not even comparable. That the league is stronger today might be true but is offset by the greater all-around parity. Upsets are more common today. Surprise teams stepping up to compete for league championships are more common today.

The Rhoads legacy so far is amazing upsets and passionate speeches. The McCarney legacy was a #10 national ranking at one point, a 9-win season, and two painful FG misses from a Big 12 championship game. I'll take the latter. But Mac ran out of momentum after 12 years and now Rhoads at year 6. I hope Rhoads can surprise us and turn it around but his overall results have not been good enough to keep him around much longer. Let's boost our expectations a bit!

 

[CyBobby]

Has Pollard fired any coaches that he hired himself?

Not fired one of his hires that I can tell...please enlighten me if I'm wrong......

 

[CyDude16]

It seems to me that McCarney coached teams at least competed each and every Saturday. They didn't always look great, but they competed. Some of these Rhoads' coached teams haven't even shown up, much less compete.

You don't remember mccarneys tenure very well then.

 

[isuforlife]

Our football program is a ******* joke and that will never change with Rhoads at the helm. Will we ever see an 8 win season again ever!!?? JFC.

Never.....nada

 

[jbhtexas]

McCarney's success at North Texas proves the guy can coach.

Ehhh...he's 5-7, 4-8, 9-4, 2-6 (0-4) at UNT. He had better get it turned around. He's at a Texas school now, and they won't put up with 1 winning season every four years.

 

[Cyclonefarmer]

Mac had a 43-43 record his last 7 years with 2 losing seasons. I never liked that he was terminated after what he did to build the program up, even if I'm the only one who feels that way. I think alumni and fan expectations got too high but how many of us would love to have those results now?!

 

[DesMoinesCy]

Some guy tweeted at Wimberly and said our whole team laid down aside from Wimberly, and Wimberly retweeted it. Probably meaningless but as a teammate I would be ******.

Good return. @Aaronw_Gla2 I know he gonna keep fighting the rest of his team laying down cmon man​

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His teammates should be ticked that he chose to retweet a tweet that has little resemblance to the English language or grammar.

 

[DesMoinesCy]

Mac had a 43-43 record his last 7 years with 2 losing seasons. I never liked that he was terminated after what he did to build the program up, even if I'm the only one who feels that way. I think alumni and fan expectations got too high but how many of us would love to have those results now?!

You are not the only one who feels that way. McCarney had 4 teams that 7-5 or better in his final 7 seasons. Rhoads has 0 teams that have finished 7-5 or better in his 6 seasons .

 

[cylove]

It's only the CPR apologists that are making this argument, trying to mock those of us that expect better than 3-win seasons and making ***** of themselves in the process.

Just because this was the first genius post that I came across, I will quote it. None of this is really aimed at you, kind of.

We got killed today, OU saw on the very first defensive play, and the very first offensive play that they were completely physically dominant. There is a reason that this team was an odds on pick to play in the national championship playoffs before big game Bob coached them to two losses.

This was a mccarney level beat down, and I was as disgusted as everyone else was watching the game. The stop on 4th down, after we scored, put momentum squarely on our side, and we ran 3 plays into the line. The fake punt was perfectly executed and the kid dropped the pass. It was an awful, truly truly awful performance, and I would hope that the players were embarrassed by what happened on the field.

But, and this is the funniest part, you agenda people look even more foolish today than ever, if that is even possible.

Imagine, an idiot Iowa State fan, who hate the coach, decide that the evidence is clear that CPR has lost the program because Iowa State took an analing from Oklahoma. I mean we have been so competitive in that series historically, right?

This isn't mac getting *** pounded by a 4 win Kansas team. This was the biggest laughingstock of a conference matchup in college football history.

Yet the people with shovels decide to pile on because we lost badly to Okla ******* homa. Are you kidding? We took a worse *** raping from them with a top 10 team, and the then heisman favorite.

I get that when you hate the coach, perspective goes out the window. But we have been playing Oklahoma nearly 100 times, and in that whole span of playing Boomer Sooner, we have not lost to them SEVEN of those times.

Good Lord folks, you want to complain about NDSU, there is validity to that. But the agenda folks, lose and any and all of the little bit of credibilty they may actually have complaining about this game.

 

[deadeyededric]

Walden's first 6 years he was 3-8(2-5), 5-6(3-4), 6-5(4-3), 4-6-1(2-4-1), 3-7-1 (1-5-1), 4-7(1-5-1) 25-39-2(13-30-2)
CPR is 29-42(14-34)

 

[cylove]

McCarney was a much better recruiter. His players weren't nearly as out of their league athletically compared to the competition as CPR's. The scores the last few seasons have been way more like Walden and Criner than they have been McCarney.

You either have no memory or you weren't a fan back whan brenda's abuser was the head coach here.


Again, NO credibility.

There is plenty to be critical of, and of course there is no perspective because people have made up their minds, but making stuff up just makes you look dumb.

 

[cylove]

It seems to me that McCarney coached teams at least competed each and every Saturday. They didn't always look great, but they competed. Some of these Rhoads' coached teams haven't even shown up, much less compete.

Congratulations you have finally hit bottom.

First off, everyone knows the quality of poster you are to begin with. But, when you make **** up thinking you are making a point, well that even exceeds your level. Good job. Now go away

 

[cylove]

McCarney's own success led to his downfall. Expectations got too high and frustration set in after coming so close to winning the North. It only took one bad season for the fanbase to turn on him. It would have been better to have kept him instead of hiring Chizik. Rhoads is in a similar situation although he hasn't had as much success. I think we should keep Rhoads until the end of next season and then evaluate the situation from there.

Oh. My. God.

This made me almost take back what I said to dude. But then I realized that he is in a league of his own.

But for ******'s sake, QUIT MAKING **** UP