What are some things that you would want out of CSP vs CFH?

acgclone

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And more focus on HS recruits. Call me old-fashioned, but watching ME or GN grow and mature throughout 4-5 years is more fun to me than a 1 year transfer.

And passion!

We need a good mix. We still need to keep taking 1 or maybe 2 transfers each year IMO. Fred's HS recruiting sort of got away from him at the end and he had to go nearly all transfers. In a perfect world for us, I would shoot for 50/50 high school and juco/transfer each year
 

Cyclonic1

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I agree with similar offense but better defense/rebounding.
A little sideline enthusiasm would be cool too but certainly not Frantic like behavior. If we get screwed on a call let the refs know that you are aware of their bad call.
 

Jer

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Pretty sure someone would be mad about anything here, even puppies and free beer.

**** yes, I don't drink and puppies just **** and **** on everything, not to mention they chew on everything. ******* nazi puppies.




jimlad?
 

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I never understood why so many wide open 3s on defense under CFH. I get that our pace wasn't going to allow us to hold teams to 60 ppg, but I didn't get why leaving great shooters wide open so consistently happened in any defense.
 

Dingus

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I want Prohm to retain Fred's slow hook when players make mistakes of execution, giving guys confidence especially on offense.

However, I'd like to see higher expectations and players getting yanked when showing lack of effort (notably on defense and rebounding).

Drove me nuts how often someone just wouldn't bother blocking out or closing out on a shooter and no one on the staff appeared to care.
 

19clone91

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This.

As good as Hoiberg's teams were, they seemed to have at least one of those games every year.

I mean this is basketball. Chances are that every team will lose a game they shouldnt when they play 30+ games.

But Texas Tech was inexcusable.
 

mb7299

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Would love if we could get back to the ball movement we had a few years ago with that put up an unsightly amount of 3's on Kansas. Definitely didnt care for iso heavy play of last season it reminded me way to much of the wayne morgan years it was frustrating to watch, in addition to some of the lack of fundamentals. Definitely appreciate what Fred did to bring back the excitement to a morbid program but the situation kind of feels like GS Warriors where a new coach to take the program to the next level was needed.
 

baagoe

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A good play at the end of halves. It was annoying to watch one guy dribble for 15 seconds and end up shooting a contested three.
 

cyrocksmypants

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A good play at the end of halves. It was annoying to watch one guy dribble for 15 seconds and end up shooting a contested three.

I could be wrong, but this didn't seem as much an issue last year. The only year I remember it being that way was with Kane, and he did it at the end of pretty much every half, every game.
 

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I would like us to win a few games, try to find some potential all conference players, ideally maybe a Player of the Year, maybe make it to the NCAA playoffs, make it past the first round of the conference tourney, win a few games at home so we can be proud of something, beat a rival once in a while, sell out Hilton, have a player that would be ranked in the top 50 nationally in some positive category, have recruits ranked in the top 125 show us some interest, maybe even come for an official visit. If most of if not all of these things would happen I would be a pretty happy Cyclone fan.
 

Gunnerclone

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I never understood why so many wide open 3s on defense under CFH. I get that our pace wasn't going to allow us to hold teams to 60 ppg, but I didn't get why leaving great shooters wide open so consistently happened in any defense.

It's kind of a funny thing. I think that every fan of every team feels like this. It's the same with the offensive rebounding. Usually it just SEEMS (there are exception games) like the other team is wide open every time and getting every offensive board when it's happening against your own team.
 

acgclone

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It's kind of a funny thing. I think that every fan of every team feels like this. It's the same with the offensive rebounding. Usually it just SEEMS (there are exception games) like the other team is wide open every time and getting every offensive board when it's happening against your own team.

No, we were bad statistically in 3pt defense. I think it's because we would double the post so much with our guards.
 

baagoe

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I could be wrong, but this didn't seem as much an issue last year. The only year I remember it being that way was with Kane, and he did it at the end of pretty much every half, every game.
I feel like I remember BDJ doing it a lot last year
 

cyclones500

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I never understood why so many wide open 3s on defense under CFH. I get that our pace wasn't going to allow us to hold teams to 60 ppg, but I didn't get why leaving great shooters wide open so consistently happened in any defense.

In part, I blame it indirectly on using help defense to balance lack of size inside, plus not much depth in the frontcourt as far as true 4's and 5's, to reduce foul trouble. I'm not sure I'm explaining that very well, and it's only one possible element.
 

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