It doesnt help that there are groups of posters that try to force people to one side or another. If you try to take a nuanced view on things you get lit up by both the haters and those who won't allow any criticism, with the latter being far worse about it (cat being the worst).
Why so angry this year
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If that bothers them then they should not be in high level division 1 sports. I promise you it’s way worse at other schools
After 35 years of being a fan we are right (not entitled) to expect better. We are viewed by other schools as a basketball powerhouse now. Might be the wrong term as we know “powerhouse” to us are the blue bloods, but we are respected. Our home court is now well known. Our traveling fans are legendary now. We need teams that show up each night to reflect that.
The fan base needs to learn how to handle success. At the beginning of the year anyone would have signed up for the resume they put together this year. But once the guys started to make real progress a lot of people lose their sense of perspective. Iowa State is a top 25 basketball program. Every team is going to give us their best shot. The other 5% are just going to be angry in anything related to life.
It’s becuase of the talent this team had, and they showed it early in the year. This team was better than what they ended up being and the blame for that has to go somewhere. A lot of that has to go to coaching. With that being said, I don’t know if it is really anger, or if it is just frustration. Anger would be the UAB game. This isn’t that.
I think injuries hurt a great deal. It also is hard to coach a team with so much talent, with talent comes egos. I am disappointed, of course I wanted to win, but I do not want to lose the coach, and the players are extremely talented. There were also many young players. I don't see the point or the profit in complaining about this unless you complain about the refereeing. Then I can see the point.
I’m in the disappointed but not angry camp. I would agree with you that preseason on paper, would I have took a 23 win season, Big XII tourney title and a trip to the NCAA absolutely! But this team was WAY more talented than what was on paper in the preseason so that comparison is a little deceiving. The reality is that this team had a huge opportunity to capitalize on some things (conference championship, trip to Des Moines and KC) and they failed to capitalize on that. I think that is where the disappointment comes from. It just seems like every time the stars start to align for ISU to take the next step we fall flat on our face. That doesn’t mean that I’m not proud of where the athletics department has gone over the past 10 years, or I think that Pollard and Prohm suck and should be fired. Just disappointed that once again an opportunity presents itself and we fall short. Look at like Kansas in football 10 years ago, they went to the ******* orange bowl and their program sucks and has sucked forever. But they took advantage of an opportunity. It seems like every program has done that in some way shape or form except us. That is where the disappoint lays at least for me... Today.
Ohio St was awful......we were worse.....very sad....very disappointed in both Players and Coaches.
I've decided to take a break from CF for a while. After replying to a post that called NWB a "mid major player," I thought, what's the point? So I'll skip reading the game thread (avoided it last night), the postgame thread, the multiple Prohm/Hoiberg/TJ/whoever to wherever threads, the out-of-bounds plays and no offense/defense/rebounding discussions, etc. Just going to sulk a bit today, then keep my eyes open for any real news in the coming weeks.
Oh, and my bracket is busted too.
Oh, and my bracket is busted too.
Are we a Top 25 program? I think that is the debate. Top 25 programs rarely go three years with a single NCAA tournament win. We have posters that say if we lose Prohm we will have to settle for a low/mid-major coach. Many on this board say that Iowa State is the 5-7th best job in the Big 12. Generally speaking these are not the signs of a Top 25 program but rather a program in the 35-45 range. There is nothing wrong with either but the anger exists because one side doesn’t feel we are maintaining that Top 25 program and the other side feels that the fans have unrealistic expectations.
I agree the anger is elevated and the spitefulness to other fans is insane.
You act like all this anger is just specific to Cyclonefanatic.
During our losing streak to end the season I was bored one day, so I decided to take a little trip over to Marquette and Ohio States message boards. I figured since they were collapsing just as bad as us I wanted to get an insight on what other fans think.
Without getting into specifics, you can pretty much copy and paste posts from site to site, just change the names of the coaches and players around, and call it good.
During our losing streak to end the season I was bored one day, so I decided to take a little trip over to Marquette and Ohio States message boards. I figured since they were collapsing just as bad as us I wanted to get an insight on what other fans think.
Without getting into specifics, you can pretty much copy and paste posts from site to site, just change the names of the coaches and players around, and call it good.
Agreed. And it's not just sports. Unfortunately, raging on the internet is the rule not the exception anymore.
And they had an immovable, elbow throwing mass of flesh under the basket that we couldn't counter.
Not what I said. A single win in 3 years. I don’t have an issue with a debate but at least properly quote me.
I agree. So many people at a national level claimed we had the most talented roster in the Big 12, but so often this season we failed to play up to that, especially in February. Even early in the season we talked about how frustrating this team was to watch because they were so inconsistent. If this team plays consistently at all, like they did in the Big 12 tournament, this team wins the conference easily. And yet so often this year we didn't. I mean, could we really argue with the tournament analysis that said that this was a team that could go to the Final Four just as easily as it could lose in the first round by 10?
You're right that, at least for me, it's more frustration than anger, and that 2015 was anger. That UAB game was easily the worst game we played that year, and I don't buy the excuse that it was the first game of the tournament. That shouldn't bother good teams, and yet ISU absolutely laid an egg that year. And then it was compounded with the kick in the nuts that Hoiberg left to coach the Bulls shortly after, so it begs the question if he and the rest of the team were even ready to play that game.
I guess my greater frustration is I'm tired of demanding respect for this team, first locally, then nationally, and then so often go on to demonstrate they're not worthy of the respect that we so often demand for them.
They went to the orange bowl and then fired the coach that took them there. Then they fell apart. Probably not the analogy you want to use here...
