Williams & Blum Pod: Cy-Hawk lumps & the rest of the season
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Not too many teams have scored more than 14 points against Iowa in the last 15 games. I think there are two by my count.
A fun stat to maybe look up would be to see how many true or RS Freshmen Iowa has faced in the past 15 years and what their record is
Tyler? I think that is his name. The director of operations or recruiting. He has a non coaching job on the staff. He's the one that got the yellow butcher paper that all the recruits made fun of a year or two ago. Said that Deyo couldn't get into Iowa, but could get into ISU (although we have the same requirements).
I still think this teams gets to a bowl. My preseason thought was 5-7 to 7-5 and that hasn’t changed.
I don’t have a ton of time for a person who only shows up after losses. People are free to spend their money as they like but not every fan is equally invested both emotionally and financially. Let’s not pretend that everything is equal.
And if you, or JoeFrog,or anyone else,believe it is time to move on from the winningest coach in Cyclone football history then requesting a realistic name of who we hire seems like a fairly benign request.
I didn’t say we should move on from Campbell. I’m just telling you we are going to have to pretty soon. The question is do you wait and prolong the inevitable? Or do you make a bold move and get that ball to stop rolling away sooner rather later. I’m sure Pollard will choose the former, but we know how that goes. It ends in a Paul Rhoads ball of flames. Once that ball starts rolling away at a place like ISU it’s really really hard to get it stopped. No one has ever been able to stop it and I don’t think Matt Campbell is at some elevated level where he’s the one to be able to stop it.
We dropped another in the end zone besides that one. Iowa ended up getting a field goal. I think on the day we dropped 4 catchable INTs. That was a weird football game that Iowa had no business winning. Our special teams were a disaster that day, and I'm not even talking about the two guys running into each other.
You are overreacting so hard. You forget we just went through a major investigation that led to multiple starters getting kicked off the team? One being our QB. Did you think we were going to come out and be 6-0 to start the year? We are young all over the field and are learning. Does it suck we lost? Yeah but at the end of the day it is one game and sometimes a team needs to lose to grow. Campbell will leave Iowa State on his own terms when it is all said and done. Also, what's your plan if they were to fire him? We're Iowa State, we would probably have to hire a coach coming off being fired and I personally do not want to do that. Just relax and let the season happen. This team could end up being good, you never know.
Nope, I predicted us at 4-8 this year with the guys that aren’t on the team anymore. It’s not about 1 game, it’s about a lot of games. Just watch what happens. Sometimes it feels like I’m the only poster around here that has been on this ride before. We’ve all been on it multiple times and it’s the same ride so I don’t get why I’m getting so much pushback. CMC will be remembered as a great ISU coach but he’s not going to make it 20 years here which is apparently what everyone yearns for like it wins you some kind of prize. We aren’t Iowa, we won’t ever be Iowa, and we shouldn’t try to be. We have to follow a different path with coaches.
You can't judge our season off one game. Campbell has proved that multiple times. Look at last year, we won this game. How did that season turn out? Iowa is unlike any team we play other than K State, we are going to naturally struggle in this game. The defenses we play after them are completely different, offenses are completely different. Your making all these bold takes right now but you probably won't be in a few weeks. Is it fun being a fan when you just expect the worst? Did you lose some money on the Clones yesterday? You're kind of freaking out my guy.
So you suggest firing Campbell and hiring someone new? You want to go through more years of rebuilding a program? If they did that we wouldn't sniff a bowl game for years.
You guys need to perma ban some of these ********
BS. When you say his time has passed then you want a replacement. Who do you want? How much will it be?
Well we have gone to the Alamo Bowl, Orlando (twice) and a Fiesta Bowl under Campbell. I guess I view a bit differently that Rhoads based on what he has actually accomplished.
Ferentz went 6-7 in his 8th year, 6-6 in his 9th and recovered. He went 4-8 in his 14th year and then got things back on track.
In his 10th and 14th year Mike Gundy went 7-6 and then got the program back to a New Year’s Six Bowl on both occasions.
Bill Snyder 1.0 went went 6-6 in Year 13 and then got back to double digit wins. Bill Snyder 2.0 went 6-7 in Year 7 and then responded with 9 & 8 win seasons.
I don’t think the ride is over yet. And when I look at the coaches in the MWC, American and MAC there isn’t anyone that I would even remotely consider over MC.
I definitely think this is fair, and obviously the negative reaction is amplified due to losing to Iowa again in the same way we always lose to them under Campbell, but re: your last paragraph, the negative reaction is because it looks exactly like last year's 4-8 so far. People are saying "why watch if it's going to be the same as last year?" Teams are suppose to improve, get worse, max out, have highs and lows, etc., but early on, it looks like we may be treated to a re-run of the previous bad season. There's nothing compelling in that and after an off-season of thinking that, for example, the offense would be different (why else would you fire the offensive coordinator?), it is disappointing to see the same exact issues as last season, because it doesn't inspire hope that these things will be fixed, and then why do you watch, if you know the basics of how things will play out.
This is all probably true, but that doesn't mean it will make it easier for us to beat them. They may experience a slight dip in recruiting, but if we're 1-7 in the next eight CyHawks, I think Iowa's record and defensive rankings dropping only hurts our resume even more.
Well, the magical 2017 and 2018 seasons both started 1-3 and looking pretty marginal for the first month. They had about 200 yards at TCU ('18) and 250 vs. Texas ('17) with David Montgomery and Co.
After Texas they threw together the 3-3-5 and after TCU was when 'Brocktober' started but it was still with talented rosters. We don't know what the potential is for some of the younger RBs or WRs etc. and what's going to come of the line. Breece Hall didn't break out until mid-October 2019. Granted he had some sort of injury for a bit but I'd guess there were a few 'I don't know if Hall is it' type posts after another slow start.
I don't like the slow starts, or the general sloppiness of how the team plays among other things, but we can also consider that a lot can happen in a season and in the end we might still see some good things including a bowl.
This is spot on. And yet, since they play a complete embarrassment of a schedule, they will go 10-2 or 11-1 and their fans will think the opposite.
