You put WVU OU and OSU in tier 1 ahead of K State who will be a top 25 team. Pretty eye opening for me, the league is going to be stacked
Let's clarify this. What is your "definition" of stacked? Do you think it was good last year?
You put WVU OU and OSU in tier 1 ahead of K State who will be a top 25 team. Pretty eye opening for me, the league is going to be stacked
KState wasn't a top 25 team last year and won't be THis year either.
Let's clarify this. What is your "definition" of stacked? Do you think it was good last year?
They will be a preseason top 25 team this year and you think they aren't one of the better teams in the conference. Wow the Big 12 is going to be loaded!
If a preseason top 25 team is considered average in a conference that is the definition of a stacked conference
They will be a preseason top 25 team this year and you think they aren't one of the better teams in the conference. Wow the Big 12 is going to be loaded!
You do realize MSU and ND were pre season top 10 last year and they were garbage. Do you think they were top 25 team s last year?
Always makes me laugh that a fan of a conference that includes Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana can call another conference "easy."
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nca...ida-state-michigan/1ki5o9b7yw86y1ej8yrnswitsg
K-State #20
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-seminoles-headline-way-too-early-top-25-2017
K-State #17
https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-early-ranking-of-the-top-25-teams-for-2017/
K-State #24
HawkeyeMashup
K-State- "average"
The Big12 was really bad last year, the BigTen was really tough. You don't get to quote all the metrics for confernce strength foR BB but then pretend they don't matter for FB.
LAst year the Ap said Baylor and TCU were pre season top 25. SO what if they are ranked pre season? They won 6 and 7 games.
Man Hawkeye fans got me nervous about football season. I didn't even think how tough the conference was going to be
You say that like it matters for ISU.
What do conference metrics have to do with my argument? Calling K-State an "average" team has nothing to do with conference strength. They would be an above average team if you put them in any other conference.
And I agree, the top portion of the Big Ten was really tough. But you can't just eliminate the 5-6 teams in that conference that were quite bad.
I think much like Baylor and TCU last year, K state is gonna be average. As I said I certainly wouldn't bet on it, but I kind of have a felling this is the year it starts to fall apart for them. The only thing that might save them is an easy non conference schedule and easy conference.
You wouldn't bet on Kansas State being average but you're going to go to a Big 12 message board and call them average anyways? Trollolol
Baylor and TCU were pre season top 25, they ended up being average or below average.
Iowa will not be able to stop Park and we win 44-41 in 3OT. Both teams go on to finish 6-6.
I don't think anyone was calling them average in the preseason either. You're trolling on a rivals message board. Pretty pathetic really