Let's clarify this. What is your "definition" of stacked? Do you think it was good last year?
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Let's clarify this. What is your "definition" of stacked? Do you think it was good last year?
They will be a preseason top 25 team this year and you think they aren't one of the better teams in the conference. Wow the Big 12 is going to be loaded!
If a preseason top 25 team is considered average in a conference that is the definition of a stacked conference
You do realize MSU and ND were pre season top 10 last year and they were garbage. Do you think they were top 25 team s last year?
[QUOKTE="HawkeyeMashup, post: 5647324, member: 37232"]Link?
Said they could win 9 games. Probably finish 4th again and a sub .500 team will finish in the top 1/2 of the Big12 again. Heck it should be ISU, if they don't win 6 games with this easy a confernce it will be disappointing.[/QUOTE]
Always makes me laugh that a fan of a conference that includes Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana can call another conference "easy."
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nca...ida-state-michigan/1ki5o9b7yw86y1ej8yrnswitsg
K-State #20
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-seminoles-headline-way-too-early-top-25-2017
K-State #17
https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-early-ranking-of-the-top-25-teams-for-2017/
K-State #24
HawkeyeMashup
K-State- "average"
http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
Heck, then even were 26th for votes in the final AP poll last year. That is "average"?
Do you think Iowa was just "average"?
Said they could win 9 games. Probably finish 4th again and a sub .500 team will finish in the top 1/2 of the Big12 again. Heck it should be ISU, if they don't win 6 games with this easy a confernce it will be disappointing.[/QUOTE]
Always makes me laugh that a fan of a conference that includes Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana can call another conference "easy."
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nca...ida-state-michigan/1ki5o9b7yw86y1ej8yrnswitsg
K-State #20
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-seminoles-headline-way-too-early-top-25-2017
K-State #17
https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-early-ranking-of-the-top-25-teams-for-2017/
K-State #24
HawkeyeMashup
K-State- "average"
http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
Heck, then even were 26th for votes in the final AP poll last year. That is "average"?
Do you think Iowa was just "average"?
Big12 had 4 teams ranked in the pre season AP poll last year and was really bad last year.
The Big12 was really bad last year, the BigTen was really tough. You don't get to quote all the metrics for confernce strength foR BB but then pretend they don't matter for FB.
LAst year the Ap said Baylor and TCU were pre season top 25. SO what if they are ranked pre season? They won 6 and 7 games.
What do conference metrics have to do with my argument? Calling K-State an "average" team has nothing to do with conference strength. They would be an above average team if you put them in any other conference.
And I agree, the top portion of the Big Ten was really tough. But you can't just eliminate the 5-6 teams in that conference that were quite bad.
Well it does. Playing less good teams increases your chances to win more games. I'm not implying ISU is competing for a conference championship. When Kansas State isn't even considered an above average team in a loaded conference ISU stands little chance.
I think much like Baylor and TCU last year, K state is gonna be average. As I said I certainly wouldn't bet on it, but I kind of have a felling this is the year it starts to fall apart for them. The only thing that might save them is an easy non conference schedule and easy conference.
You wouldn't bet on Kansas State being average but you're going to go to a Big 12 message board and call them average anyways? Trollolol
Baylor and TCU were pre season top 25, they ended up being average or below average.
I don't think anyone was calling them average in the preseason either. You're trolling on a rivals message board. Pretty pathetic really
This wouldn't totally shock me. If ISU beat Iowa, they should beat UNI and the other patsy. That would mean they only win 3 in an easy Big12, that would be disappointing.
I thought you didn't care about other teams in he Big12? Why so defensive about what I think KState will or won't be this year? You are seriously losing your mind about what I think about K State? Weird.
