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HawkeyeMashup

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Sorry, but you can't convince me that K-State doesn't have a good chance to finish with 10 wins and a top 3 Big 12 season.

That's fine, we can revisit this at the end of the season. I can't believe how butt hurt some get around here if everyone doesn't bow down to the all Mighty Big12. Heck if you wanna say Michigan doesn't win 10 games this year, I won't care.
 

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So you thought Michigan State wouldn't be a top tier team in the Big Ten last year?

Thought they were way overrated. Thought they would still win 7 or 8 games, so it isn't like I saw the crater, but they were way overrated at the beginning of the year.
 

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That's fine, we can revisit this at the end of the season. I can't believe how butt hurt some get around here if everyone doesn't bow down to the all Mighty Big12. Heck if you wanna say Michigan doesn't win 10 games this year, I won't care.

I actually think it speaks to how tough the Big 12 is going to be this year. You're saying preseason top 25 team isn't in the top tier of a 10 team league. Big 12 is going to be a grind
 
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I actually think it speaks to how tough the Big 12 is going to be this year. You're saying preseason top 25 team isn't in the top tier of a 10 team league. Big 12 is going to be a grind


That doesn't even make sense. The Big12 will probably be the 4th or 5th best P5 confernce again this year, just like last year.
 
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That doesn't even make sense. The Big12 will probably be the 4th or 5th best P5 confernce again this year, just like last year.

You just said a preseason top 25 team wouldn't be in the top tier of a 10 team league. You're giving the Big 12 a lot of credit saying that
 

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I actually think it speaks to how tough the Big 12 is going to be this year. You're saying preseason top 25 team isn't in the top tier of a 10 team league. Big 12 is going to be a grind

For a ****** team any P5 conference schedule is going to be a grind. For Vandy, the SEC is a grind. For Purdue, the B1G is a grind. For Syracuse, the ACC is a grind. But you know that.
 

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You just said a preseason top 25 team wouldn't be in the top tier of a 10 team league. You're giving the Big 12 a lot of credit saying that


I didn't say that at all. I said K state could still win 9 games because of the easy schedule. If they win 8 games that will still be good enough to finish in the top half of the Big12, just like last year when a 6-7 team finished 5th in the Big12. The Big12 was pretty bad last year and will be again this year.
 
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For a ****** team any P5 conference schedule is going to be a grind. For Vandy, the SEC is a grind. For Purdue, the B1G is a grind. For Syracuse, the ACC is a grind. But you know that.

When a team that has won 53 games the last 6 years and is going to be a preseason top 25 team and the conference is so good they're not even considered one of the better teams than you know it's going to be a grind for any team regardless of how good or bad
 

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I didn't say that at all. I said K state could still win 9 games because of the easy schedule. If they win 8 games that will still be good enough to finish in the top half of the Big12, just like last year when a 6-7 team finished 5th in the Big12. The Big12 was pretty bad last year and will be again this year.

You just said they weren't a top tier team. I knew the Big 12 was going to be better this year but you're making me realize how loaded the conference really will be
 

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When a team that has won 53 games the last 6 years and is going to be a preseason top 25 team and the conference is so good they're not even considered one of the better teams than you know it's going to be a grind for any team regardless of how good or bad

Sorry. Sure. Of course it is, Tiger.
 

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You just said they weren't a top tier team. I knew the Big 12 was going to be better this year but you're making me realize how loaded the conference really will be

Never said that. Said KState can get to 9 wins because their schedule is so weak. Big12 was really, really bad last year. What makes you think it will be any better this year?
 

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Never said that. Said KState can get to 9 wins because their schedule isn't so weak. Big12 was really, really bad last year. What makes you think it will be any better this year?

You said a preseason top 25 team wasn't one of the better teams in the conference.
 

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You said a preseason top 25 team wasn't one of the better teams in the conference.

Link?

Said they could win 9 games. Probably finish 4th again and a sub .500 team will finish in the top 1/2 of the Big12 again. Heck it should be ISU, if they don't win 6 games with this easy a confernce it will be disappointing.
 
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That's fine, we can revisit this at the end of the season. I can't believe how butt hurt some get around here if everyone doesn't bow down to the all Mighty Big12. Heck if you wanna say Michigan doesn't win 10 games this year, I won't care.
Butt hurt? I'm "butt hurt" for calling you out for saying that a team is "average," though every metric there is disagrees with you.

I could care less if it was a Big 12, Big Ten, ACC, PAC 12, etc. school.
 

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Link?

Said they could win 9 games. Probably finish 4th again and a sub .500 team will finish in the top 1/2 of the Big12 again. Heck it should be ISU, if they don't win 6 games with this easy a confernce it will be disappointing.

You put WVU OU and OSU in tier 1 ahead of K State who will be a top 25 team. Pretty eye opening for me, the league is going to be stacked
 

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Easily ISU. ISU only won 3 games last year and play a really easy schedule this year. Should Beat UNI, Akron, Kansas and Tech. They should have a chance to also beat TCU, Baylor, Texas, and K State, as those teams are really average. Just beat two of those 4 average teams, and ISU goes bowling. The only teams they don't have a very good shot of beating us OU, WVU and OSU.

ISU really should be in a bowl game or it will be a disappointing year. When your schedule is this easy you have to take advantage. I see 6 wins for ISU this year, and no way Iowa wins 11.

Here is the link of you saying a top 25 team is just average. Any other league a top 25 team is considered good but with the Big 12 being so loaded I get why you don't have them in that top tier
 

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You put WVU OU and OSU in tier 1 ahead of K State who will be a top 25 team. Pretty eye opening for me, the league is going to be stacked

Here is the link of you saying a top 25 team is just average. Any other league a top 25 team is considered good but with the Big 12 being so loaded I get why you don't have them in that top tier

KState wasn't a top 25 team last year and won't be THis year either.