Big 12 Statement 9.1.2021
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I SURE DO NOT WANT ANYMORE TEXAS SCHOOLS......TIME TO ADD SCHOOLS WHO WILL HELP ADD FANS AND MORE EYEBALLS ON TELEVISION SCREENS IMHO.
No they have an on-campus stadium they call the Bounce House; Camping World Stadium is where we played Notre Dame in the bowl a couple years ago.
I don't think it is really a viable option either; I would prefer just leaving it at Jerryworld in perpetuity. It's really easy for every fan base to fly to DFW or DAL.
And I hope we can create a nice eight-school voting block (7 of the current members plus Houston) to keep the football CCG in Texas and the basketball tourney in Kansas City. (and the baseball tournament in OKC). Idk if Cincy and WVU might try to grab the hoops tournament for a year or two at some point - we should all stick together to vote it down.
selfishly I would love to see Colorado State added so I could watch the Cyclones in person when they come to Fort Collins
Same here. BYU is a good pick. Cincinnati makes sense pairing with WVU. Would much rather go CSU and Air Force than Houston and UCF. UCF makes no sense geographically. Need to rebuild the conference with some common identity and purpose.
There’s something I don’t trust about UCF. I Think they could possibly jump to another conference likeOuT if given the chance.
If we play as a 9 team league next year with BYU after OU and UT leave, as we wait for the American schools to serve an exit period, then we each would pick up one more non-con game on short notice. I'm guessing we would look first to the teams that BYU would need to drop from its schedule to play us. Here are BYU's games in 2022:
@ USF, Baylor, @ Oregon, Wyoming, Utah State, Arkansas, @ Liberty, @ Boise State, Dixie State, @ Stanford, East Carolina
Baylor is an easy drop. Guessing Arkansas would be an easy one to cancel as well if the SEC went from 8 to 9 conference games.
BYU would need to keep 4 of the other 9 games. The 8 schools in the league could take the other 5, leaving 3 schools in the Big 12 to fend for ourselves for an additional non-con game.
We would need to replace a home game because 2022 was supposed to be a 5-home-conference-game year. Options include:
Wyoming
Utah State
East Carolina
BYU would probably keep the USU game. So maybe we could slot in a home game against either Wyoming or ECU, along with @ Iowa, vs. Ohio, and vs. SEMO (FCS), for 4 non-con games and then an 8-game conference schedule with BYU and without OU or UT.
@ USF, Baylor, @ Oregon, Wyoming, Utah State, Arkansas, @ Liberty, @ Boise State, Dixie State, @ Stanford, East Carolina
Baylor is an easy drop. Guessing Arkansas would be an easy one to cancel as well if the SEC went from 8 to 9 conference games.
BYU would need to keep 4 of the other 9 games. The 8 schools in the league could take the other 5, leaving 3 schools in the Big 12 to fend for ourselves for an additional non-con game.
We would need to replace a home game because 2022 was supposed to be a 5-home-conference-game year. Options include:
Wyoming
Utah State
East Carolina
BYU would probably keep the USU game. So maybe we could slot in a home game against either Wyoming or ECU, along with @ Iowa, vs. Ohio, and vs. SEMO (FCS), for 4 non-con games and then an 8-game conference schedule with BYU and without OU or UT.
If financial survival and access to a playoff were not at stake I'd like CSU as well. But since those things are on the line and are dependent on not only on-field success in football, but also media interest, I do not want CSU or AFA at all. I have been at games at AFA and CSU in the end of the DeBerry and Lubick eras. There is zero interest locally (and clearly nationally) in those teams. As I shared before when I went to a CSU game they were #16 in the country, and they had an announced crowd of 28k, and it wasn't that. It was the worst CFB atmosphere I've been at, and I attended ISU in the early McCarney days before they were competitive. While I loved going to a game at AFA, and it was very cool to me, it was absolutely not a big time atmosphere at all. Attendance probably in the low 20s
While I like the idea that a CSU in the Big 12 could really boost the interest, I just don't think it would ever materialize. They had nationally ranked and relevant teams in the early 2000s, had a big, growing population in the area, and it was such a non-factor it is very hard to describe to people that live in a state like Iowa that has no pro sports. Not to mention their last game of 2019 vs. ranked Boise State had an attendance of 12k!
In my opinion BYU and Cincy are clearly at the top, UCF is a pretty clear third, then after that I really don't like anyone. I don't like Houston. I think at best it's a TCU type situation where getting in the conference boosts their program on the field, but them being good doesn't generate much interest or legitimacy in the conference as a whole.
Play the conference championship in Arrowhead.
UCF is in the #2 fastest growing major metro in the US (Austin #1). It's Disney's backyard, cheap to fly to and has AMAZING weather from late September to early December. They are a "brand" from the 2017 claimed national title and are committed to football. They are also located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the country. If only USF was relevant in football and men's basketball as I'd loved to lockdown the Orlando to Tampa corridor
I still think this is the situation. I just started thinking about the "what if they aren't just posturing?"
Adding BYU to the 2022 schedule while losing UT and OU would free up a nice slot for us to go out and schedule another home game against a cupcake.
That sounds REALLY NICE when you think about losing Foster, Newell, Schweiger (maybe), Purdy, Breece, Hutch, Milton (maybe), McDonald, Eni, Rose, Vance (maybe), Hummel, Johnson Jr and Eisworth
Starting the year with SE Missouri, Iowa, Ohio and Ball State sounds fun and a good way to break in a "new look" Iowa State
That sounds REALLY NICE when you think about losing Foster, Newell, Schweiger (maybe), Purdy, Breece, Hutch, Milton (maybe), McDonald, Eni, Rose, Vance (maybe), Hummel, Johnson Jr and Eisworth
Starting the year with SE Missouri, Iowa, Ohio and Ball State sounds fun and a good way to break in a "new look" Iowa State
Am I the only one who sees the antiquity of the GOR with the reconstituted B12? Paradoxically, I see the media giants seeking the longer GOR while the leagues want to be more mobile during this 'media' transition. So much is going to happen there, it's hard to predict. As such, the conferences should keep their options as mobile and 'marketable' as can be.
