Car chase and shots fired

dirtyninety

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You guys can debate this all you want.......but I bet the policeman who shot this kid wishes he hadn't had done it now. He can't take it back now. Someone else said it, and I agree....the whole thing is just sad.
 

cyclonedave25

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Gas, smoke, taser, shoot tires out?

Do you see big city cops shoot every high speed chase dead?
Gas? This isn't the SWAT team out here.
Smoke? Perfect, throw a smoke bomb in there so you can't see what he's doing, or what he's reaching for.
Taser? Can you shoot tasers through trucks? Or, should they have tapped on the window first to see if he would roll it down to get a taser in there?
Shoot tires out? Yeah, because when you shoot out a tire, the vehicle stops dead in it's tracks. You could have shot all 4 tires out in the truck and it still would have driven away smiling. Or in this case, still would have charged at the Officer or another car.
 

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You guys can debate this all you want.......but I bet the policeman who shot this kid wishes he hadn't had done it now. He can't take it back now. Someone else said it, and I agree....the whole thing is just sad.

no kidding.
 

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Agreed - but that is what clinches the justification of the shooting.

Also interesting - I didn't hear on the audio for the dispatcher calling for the police to back off.
They said it when they were coming by MWL and they backed off quite a bit. They also said it again right as the Ames PD officer pulled up to the front of the truck after he spun around entering central campus.
 

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You guys can debate this all you want.......but I bet the policeman who shot this kid wishes he hadn't had done it now. He can't take it back now. Someone else said it, and I agree....the whole thing is just sad.
I think he did what he had to do to end a very dangerous situation, I hope he knows that too, I'm sure he wishes he didn't have to fire on the kid though.
 

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You guys can debate this all you want.......but I bet the policeman who shot this kid wishes he hadn't had done it now. He can't take it back now. Someone else said it, and I agree....the whole thing is just sad.
That officer may feel bad for taking somebody's life, but in the spur of the moment he did the right thing.
I'm sure he's happy to be going home alive and he could have saved other people's lives by shooting him.
Who knows what would have happened if the truck driver drove off on another rampage. If he runs over a couple students, people would be mad that they didn't shoot him when they had a chance.
 

SoapyCy

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That officer may feel bad for taking somebody's life, but in the spur of the moment he did the right thing.
I'm sure he's happy to be going home alive and he could have saved other people's lives by shooting him.
Who knows what would have happened if the truck driver drove off on another rampage. If he runs over a couple students, people would be mad that they didn't shoot him when they had a chance.

Yeah. But if he killed students people would still blame the cops for chasing him. People have made up their minds and nothing said or done will change them.
 

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They rammed what was available to them at the exact second. No reason to wait for "a better spot". They can always ram again if needed.

Also, I believe that it is a tactic to try and spin vehicles...some (not sure how many...maybe it's mandatory...IDK) have a shutoff in the fuel line if the car rolls over (I know my '90 escort did, as it was right in the hatchback). I seem to recall hearing somewhere that if a vehicle spins fast enough, it can trip that shutoff valve causing the car to stall out. I think when you see a cop car come just past the rear bumper on the passenger side, then swerve to the left, causing a spin, this is how they try and do it. The spin slows the vehicle, giving time to approach, but it can also trip that valve, I think.

Again, something I recall hearing, but hell, it might have been on a cop show or something, and too lazy to look it up.
 

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After watching the dash cam, I think it's totally justified by the cop.

Emotionally I feel it's a bit wrong, because I haven't experienced direct punishment for my mistakes the way that kid did.
 

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I am supporting everything the police officers of Ames for what they did. He almost killed several innocent people, and things could've escalated even more. For example, this is what could have happened if the cops didn't take the necessary measures to stop this man
[video=youtube_share;qoI4G1fWmEQ]http://youtu.be/qoI4G1fWmEQ[/video]
 

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I find it very infuriating these national "news" stories that are not telling the whole story and the idiots that read it are eating it up. I really don't know how anyone can argue this kid didn't pose a threat to the safety of the public. I feel bad for his friends and family, but ****, he was lucky he didn't kill anyone
 

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You guys can debate this all you want.......but I bet the policeman who shot this kid wishes he hadn't had done it now. He can't take it back now. Someone else said it, and I agree....the whole thing is just sad.

I bet the cop was hoping against hope that Tyler wasn't going to turn his truck into the grassy area in the middle of campus. I know I was hoping he wouldn't while I was watching that video, but that's exactly what he did.

It's pretty obvious why the county attorney decided against taking further action and released the dashcam videos only 3 days after the incident. The police action was 100% justified. If Tyler had taken the truck out onto Highway 30 toward Boone, there is no way they would have fired on him. They would have continued ramming his F-250 until they could disable it. In this situation, they had no choice, the were forced to disable the driver instead of the vehicle. The bleeding hearts would be up in arms if the cops had instead let this guy go and he ended up running over a pack of pedestrians.

Tyler Comstock, and Tyler Comstock alone, is responsible for his death. Stop the truck when the squad car lights come on, and this is over.

By the way, prepare for these videos to end up on Sheriff John Bunnell's Wildest Police Chases shows in the coming years. This is a perfect scenario for them to use.
 

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I find it very infuriating these national "news" stories that are not telling the whole story and the idiots that read it are eating it up. I really don't know how anyone can argue this kid didn't pose a threat to the safety of the public. I feel bad for his friends and family, but ****, he was lucky he didn't kill anyone

the issue isn't how dangerous the chase was - the issue was the last few seconds of the dash video where the truck backed into the cop car and almost hit the officer - that is the point where the shooting was justified.
 

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I think when you see a cop car come just past the rear bumper on the passenger side, then swerve to the left, causing a spin, this is how they try and do it. The spin slows the vehicle, giving time to approach, but it can also trip that valve, I think.

This is called a PIT maneuver and I don't think it has anything to do with the fuel. Rather it's meant to spin the car and stop it while allowing the officer to retain control of his own vehicle. If you pull up alongside a vehicle with your front bumper next to their rear wheel, and then turn into them, they will spin out and you will continue traveling forward. Try it on a 4-lane road sometime. :spinny:
 

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You guys can debate this all you want.......but I bet the policeman who shot this kid wishes he hadn't had done it now. He can't take it back now. Someone else said it, and I agree....the whole thing is just sad.

No Im sure the guy was glad he shot a kid.


The guy running took all of the burden of being shot onto himself when he acted the way he did. He gets pulled over and goes to jail he is still breathing.
 

BKLYNCyclone

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My brother informed me this was getting more press... Media will do anything to fan the flames and create a story. The whole thing is sad, and stupid (followed by a lot more stupid grasping at straws afterwards)...

1) Dad called the cops to teach his (emotionally unstable) son a lesson because he went out to buy a pack of smokes??? Smart...
2) Guy decides to take off recklessly when attempted to be pulled over... Brilliant.
3) Guy rams police car... Genious.
4) Guy decides to drive into campus, drive in reverse across central campus, run over a tent/stand thing as pedestrian flees for life on foot, ram more police cars... Savant.

The world can only tolerate so much stupid... He exceeded the limit and paid the price. If he'd made a single good decision in those three minutes, and the guy would be alive. Instead, he kept making worse decisions, and had he broken free again and torn across central campus there was a high likelihood that he'd taken others with him.
 
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CysRage

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Still waiting on someone who says cops were out of line to say one way to take out the threat from the driver without opening fire. To the guy that said gas, smoke, or taser..you have to be joking. Also, the cop shouldn't feel guilt at all. He saved a lot of people by taking out the risk. If he hadn't of taken out the driver, any deaths/injuries to innocent bystanders beyond that would have been on the cops for not taking him out sooner. Period. That's why he did what he needed to do.