Not reading all this but just skimming there's a whole lot of crazy in this thread.
Iowa loss wasn’t embarrassing. Ohio loss was largely due to key players playing football while having a stomach illness. Team didn’t perform well yesterday, but a mid level bowl game is pretty meaninglessWith embarrassing losses to Ohio, Iowa, and Memphis in the non-conference. Pretty damn embarrassing the way the team played and was (not) prepared for those games, if you ask me.
The faking taking a knee before half was a bush league play. I think it should be banned. It is similiar to faking a slide by a runner. It happened few years ago in ACC title game. The runner faked a slide and kept on running. The NCAA banned it a few weeks later.
If the defensive lineman just played it like normal play. You would get uncessary roughness penalty. If indeed he takes knee. If you notice in the play the officials were in closer then normal.
I know in high school. The offensive player just says we are going to take a knee. We let defense know. Then ball is snapped and clock runs out.
Now should I just let it play out like a normal play? I am a hgh school referee. I haven't ever seen a fake in that situation. We might see it now.
Meh. If ISU ran that you’d be loving it.
We were hoodwinked on the play, no doubt. The play will be illustrated in coaching circles for some time. I guess legal it was, but Jaws makes a good point.I mostly agree with you on this however, the play yesterday was within the current rules, and smart by them.
My biggest beef: That play SHOULD have absolutely lit a massive fire in our hearts and pissed our entire staff and team off…. It didn’t. I actually thought them running that play might be the key to our comeback win.
Yeah but no - I’m only interested in ISU’s brand.What bowl winning team from this year and last year do you think has helped their brand?
Yeah but no - I’m only interested in ISU’s brand.
Many bowl winners already have significant national recognition in football, while ISU is still working to establish such, and losing when heavily favored isn’t beneficial.
You may be right, especially as you were there? Anyway, it didn't seem that much.Saw it live right in front of me.
He said something and then turns back.
points and says something again.
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Didn’t look like he was just “having fun” live and replay catches it at 3:03 3rd Q.
Saw it live right in front of me.
He said something and then turns back.
points and says something again.
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Didn’t look like he was just “having fun” live and replay catches it at 3:03 3rd Q.
Yes, the game officially counts. But in the grand scheme, it’s a mid level bowl game to end a season. It’s not like the NCAA basketball tournament. It’s a game thrown together with the purpose of the sponsor to make $$ and for the hosting town to attract tourist to make $$Are we still 7-5 since this was an exhibition? I'm guessing Rocco's passing record doesn't count either?
Saw it live right in front of me.
He said something and then turns back.
points and says something again.
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Didn’t look like he was just “having fun” live and replay catches it at 3:03 3rd Q.
Yeah but no - I’m only interested in ISU’s brand.
Many bowl winners already have significant national recognition in football, while ISU is still working to establish such, and losing when heavily favored isn’t beneficial.
Question: Who had more misery here, Oklahoma, Ohio State or Missouri? Thought provoking.Oh ya? Who, Misery or Arizona? Yep national brands.
Same. I stayed with it the whole game. We had some good moments, mostly from Rocco and the WR's (definitely not running game or defense).Going out with a win would have been great but I'm in the column of being past it mattering to the future of the program or carrying momentum etc.
That said looking that sloppy was too bad. But I was over it by mid-2nd quarter. If they came back to win, great but they just idn't look very good.
He should stay with "bullsh!t programs go 7-6" or something like "I apologize for the product you saw on the field today. We did a piss poor job preparing". "We need to do better at recruiting and developing our players. Especially up front." You know, just be honest.
And I'm not laughing at you. The sarcasm is well timed!Then we really should change coaches I guess.
WhatEv !This is Cyclone FANATIC - feel free to found and operate Cyclone Whatev’s where you can commune with like-minded people! Of course I’m kidding, but people care and need a release to blow off steam without being lectured.
You think recruits care about the outcome of a mid to low tier bowl game?Maryland's brand beat Auburn's brand in palindromatic fashion in a meaningless exhibition.....nobody watching. No young high school athletes, no future recruits. everything is awesome.