I really don't see a problem with Iowa State picturing itself as an academic institution first and foremost.
The athletics cannot exist without the academics; the academics can exist without the athletics.
Sports usually loses money at most schools which are not Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, or USC. ISU's sports programs are not self supporting.
That comment makes me sad. Iowa State is not an entertainment company. Universities exist to solve real problems that people face on this Earth. Without them, life would not exist the way you know it today.
If sports is the real revenue generator then what has it produced for the university? Look at the Oklahoma's, Florida's, and LSU's of the world and tell me how much revenue from sports has been extended to the university, itself.
Universities are not money makers, they are expensive money consumers, both academics and athletics. That is why our gifts are important.
I dont think your understaning what im saying... obviously you need to worry about the academics...
We live in an instant society today and that includes athletics at all levels. Can we please wait until year 3 to judge what Chizik can or cannot do? For the love of God, he has not even truly had a recruiting class that is solely the players he wanted to bring in.
The sky is not falling quite yet.
I get what you were saying, you were merely offering an impression based on your experiences.
I just think that even if that is the vibe we are putting out there, I don't see a problem with that. It is sort of the truth, and having earned my degree at Iowa State, one I am happy to accept.
WOW... this person must of worked at the ISU foundation and actually believes all that hope-la... or they are directly effected by the school (they are a prof, or married to one, or parents)
I never worked for the alumni foundation, but I certainly believe in the majority of research that ISU produces is beneficial to people like you, me, and beyond.
Gocubs, you pay tuition because it is not cheap to run an academic institution.
I really would have expected people to argue these points with me on a husker board, but not on an ISU board.
Gocubs, you pay tuition because it is not cheap to run an academic institution.
I really would have expected people to argue these points with me on a husker board, but not on an ISU board.
Believing that a university's academic side does not benefit from strong athletics is foolish. It may not give dollars to the university, but there are other ways it can help.
Geoffroy is an academic. That is his priority, and he's made it no secret. He also understands that the numbers don't lie, and strong athletics can help a schools notoriety, bring in more potential students (tuition $$$) and benefit academics. You should ask him if strong athletic programs are beneficial to the schools academic goals. I bet he'll tell you yes without hesitating.
Geoffroy is an academic. That is his priority, and he's made it no secret. He also understands that the numbers don't lie, and strong athletics can help a schools notoriety, bring in more potential students (tuition $$$) and benefit academics. You should ask him if strong athletic programs are beneficial to the schools academic goals. I bet he'll tell you yes without hesitating.
Exactly. If it was between Florida and ISU for I would have gone to Florida in a heartbeat. Having good athletics bring in a lot more money than people might expect.
There is no doubt that having strong athletics helps the recognition in your university. It can greatly enhance the culture of Ames and the diversity of the university. The bottom line, however, is that if you were to put a sum of money towards the university, the primary purpose of Iowa State would be much more likely to be served by a donation straight to the university rather than athletics.
I never said athletics were unimportant, especially keeping alumni involved with the university. I would just hate for people to start thinking that Iowa States athletics image is more important than its academic. Fair enough?
I never said athletics were unimportant, especially keeping alumni involved with the university. I would just hate for people to start thinking that Iowa States athletics image is more important than its academic. Fair enough?
k only a few ppl come to mind for me right now after reading some of the posts
since i saw som1 say its not a pos we need but its for the future and i here its a more athletic player i will throw the name
BJ Daniels (but i highly doubt this is who it is)
others
Kendrick Presley(Ath)
Kendall Wright(Ath)
Zavier Gooden (S)
Dekendrick Moncrief (WR)
since i saw som1 say its not a pos we need but its for the future and i here its a more athletic player i will throw the name
BJ Daniels (but i highly doubt this is who it is)
others
Kendrick Presley(Ath)
Kendall Wright(Ath)
Zavier Gooden (S)
Dekendrick Moncrief (WR)
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