Re: Let's throw the team under the bus
They scored 30 more points.
We scored 10 more points.
They won. :tongue:
They scored 30 more points.
We scored 10 more points.
They won. :tongue:
UNI/ISU. I hate to say it, but.....(sky falling thread)
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Re: How many Big 12 caliber players on this team?
Right on Kramer. I was thinking of that myself. TF won 22 games in '96 with basically 6 guys. LE won 2 conference titles with at most a 7 man rotation. I think you can take a chance once in a while on 'diamonds in the rough', but fielding a large percentage of them is very problematic. I think we saw that in football under DM. I think they are several players on this team who simply do not have the talent to play at this level (Petersen, Haluska, Thompson, and Cory Johnson come to mind).
Right on Kramer. I was thinking of that myself. TF won 22 games in '96 with basically 6 guys. LE won 2 conference titles with at most a 7 man rotation. I think you can take a chance once in a while on 'diamonds in the rough', but fielding a large percentage of them is very problematic. I think we saw that in football under DM. I think they are several players on this team who simply do not have the talent to play at this level (Petersen, Haluska, Thompson, and Cory Johnson come to mind).
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
That or we could leave the board open to view only. The mods could change the name of the team we played and we could just view the threads over and over :wideeyed:
***I'd better stop before they get more ideas*** :biglaugh:
That or we could leave the board open to view only. The mods could change the name of the team we played and we could just view the threads over and over :wideeyed:
***I'd better stop before they get more ideas*** :biglaugh:
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
We'll see. I am not the type to come back and say told you so but I am sure some one will point it out to me if he does find greatness. More power to him if he does.
We'll see. I am not the type to come back and say told you so but I am sure some one will point it out to me if he does find greatness. More power to him if he does.
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
Because he's not putting up a double double like everyyard expects out of freshman, obviously. For some reason, he thinks every freshman that comes in is going to be like that kid from Memphis.
Because he's not putting up a double double like everyyard expects out of freshman, obviously. For some reason, he thinks every freshman that comes in is going to be like that kid from Memphis.
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
or you could stop reading the threads you don't want to look at. too easy???
or you could stop reading the threads you don't want to look at. too easy???
Re: Let's throw the team under the bus
I think that with the abundance of new memberships in the last few months, people may not know the "One postgame thread" rule. I know after many football games, the number of postgame threads was at about 5 or 6, which I suppose is tolerable, since at least they intend on discussing different topics. Maybe everyone just needs a reminder to keep these threads to a minimum. This is completely rediculous.
I think that with the abundance of new memberships in the last few months, people may not know the "One postgame thread" rule. I know after many football games, the number of postgame threads was at about 5 or 6, which I suppose is tolerable, since at least they intend on discussing different topics. Maybe everyone just needs a reminder to keep these threads to a minimum. This is completely rediculous.
Re: "We were just plain outcoached."
I agree with you in part that we don't have talented depth, but there is more D1 talent on this team than Brackins.
Rahshon Clark - talent - looks great this year 4 out of 5 games in double figures, plays great defense (4 blocks tonight)
Wes Johnson - THE most talented player on the team
DG - talent just really young and needs time
Brackins - offensively oozing with talent but streaky - needs time to develop consistent effort. Poor defense
Issues as I see it are
Wes is not 100% which is scary considering he put up 18 pts. tonight at less that full strength.
Brackins needs to be more consistent. But, his biggest issue is having consistent guard play to feed him the ball.
DG - young and inexperienced but really has a bright future
Moral of the story is we have youth, inexperience, and lack of talented depth in key spots, and Wes is injured. Give it time, this team will be playing much better by the time Big XII season rolls around
I agree with you in part that we don't have talented depth, but there is more D1 talent on this team than Brackins.
Rahshon Clark - talent - looks great this year 4 out of 5 games in double figures, plays great defense (4 blocks tonight)
Wes Johnson - THE most talented player on the team
DG - talent just really young and needs time
Brackins - offensively oozing with talent but streaky - needs time to develop consistent effort. Poor defense
Issues as I see it are
Wes is not 100% which is scary considering he put up 18 pts. tonight at less that full strength.
Brackins needs to be more consistent. But, his biggest issue is having consistent guard play to feed him the ball.
DG - young and inexperienced but really has a bright future
Moral of the story is we have youth, inexperience, and lack of talented depth in key spots, and Wes is injured. Give it time, this team will be playing much better by the time Big XII season rolls around
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
You could stop watching the players you obviously don't want to look at on the court. Too easy???
You could stop watching the players you obviously don't want to look at on the court. Too easy???
Re: How many Big 12 caliber players on this team?
Agree with all of the above. Too bad Garrett doesn't have more experience to handle the point guard spot now. Going to have to wait and also hope Buckley is a super stud, or this won't be the only long season we have to endure.
Agree with all of the above. Too bad Garrett doesn't have more experience to handle the point guard spot now. Going to have to wait and also hope Buckley is a super stud, or this won't be the only long season we have to endure.
Re: How many Big 12 caliber players on this team?
3: Brackins (for a freshman), Clark (in the right system), obviously Johnson.
3: Brackins (for a freshman), Clark (in the right system), obviously Johnson.
Re: How many Big 12 caliber players on this team?
Agree. You must say it better than I do...I get ripped for the same sentiment but possibly am more hostile in my tone.
Agree. You must say it better than I do...I get ripped for the same sentiment but possibly am more hostile in my tone.
I think im gonna cheer for the cyclones cuz im a cyclone fan!!! If we win, awesome, if we lose, well, ill still come back next week and cheer for them again because im a CYCLONE FAN! I don't know why we get so caught up in "omg we dont have talent, or a good enough coach" You know something, I LIKE IOWA STATE! If anyone asks me ill tell them why yes I do like the cyclones and thats the short and long of it.
Yep that sounds about right
Yep that sounds about right
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
Jon, I'll agree with you to a point, but IMO GMac has NOT done that well in recruiting. Brackins and Garrett will be good, and Wesley is, but other than that, it's been a lot of whiffs. Look at next year...no Clark and Hubalik. Who is going to play the post with Brackins? Thompson? OUCH. Him, CJohnson and Vette all got schooled tonight vs UNIs undersized bigs. And the new signees Hamilton and Mann are completely underwhelming.
Then, right when guards Garrett and Buckley are starting to come around, ISU will lose WJ. GMac needs to recruit some difference makers and not just role players. He hasn't done that since Brackins.
Jon, I'll agree with you to a point, but IMO GMac has NOT done that well in recruiting. Brackins and Garrett will be good, and Wesley is, but other than that, it's been a lot of whiffs. Look at next year...no Clark and Hubalik. Who is going to play the post with Brackins? Thompson? OUCH. Him, CJohnson and Vette all got schooled tonight vs UNIs undersized bigs. And the new signees Hamilton and Mann are completely underwhelming.
Then, right when guards Garrett and Buckley are starting to come around, ISU will lose WJ. GMac needs to recruit some difference makers and not just role players. He hasn't done that since Brackins.
Re: Iowa State is NOT GOOD.
well put. I wish I could. I love ISU too much to stop going even if it is painful. It is like moths to fire I guess.
well put. I wish I could. I love ISU too much to stop going even if it is painful. It is like moths to fire I guess.
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Keep in mind out of Petersen, Haluska, Thompson, and Cory Johnson...Petersen and Haluska came in as walk-ons and Cory Johnson was a Wayne Morgan recruit...everyyard-you are basically repeatedly ripping on Greg McDermott for one recruiting class (which has the potential to be the best in a LONG time)...and backing up your argument with nothing, except for the fact that these freshmen are not playing like upperclassmen.
