Why not re-rank today, 1/24
- Thread starter CycloneErik
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The irony of this is very deep. No one wants to talk actually hoops here. It's incessant ad hominem argumentation: the last vestige of losers, I might add.
Don't sweat it. So long as Dave doesn't show up and start serenading Old Bob with love ballads it will be ok.
What's really sad for TCU is that Miles (their best player) was injured in a meaningless Big 12/SEC nonconference game in the middle of the conference season.
Looking at the remaining schedules, I can just about talk myself into any final standing scenario (I'm leaving Tech and OU off since I think they have the last two spots locked in barring a late run)
Observations:
- KSU doesn't face a ranked opponent on the road
- OSU only has 1 ranked opponent on the road (us, who they beat at home)
- Despite their record, KU will probably be favored in every game except UT (maybe TCU?)
- If it comes down to the final game to decide the champ, we'll have KU @ UT, ISU @ BU and KSU @ WVU
UT (8-3) remaining:
v WVU, @ TTU, v OU, v 11 ISU, @ 14 BU, @ 17 TCU, v 9 KU
ISU (7-3) remaining:
@ WVU, v OSU, v 17 TCU, @ 12 ksu, @ 5 UT, v OU, v WVU, @ 14 BU
KU (7-4) remaining:
@ OU, @ OSU, v 14 BU, @ 17 TCU, v WVU, v TTU, @ 5 UT
TCU (6-4) remaining:
@ 12 ksu, v 14 BU, @ 11 ISU, v OSU, v 9 KU, @ TTU, v 5 UT, @ OU
K-State (6-4) remaining:
v 17 TCU, @ TTU, @ OU, v 11 ISU, v 14 BU, @ OSU, v OU, @ WVU
Baylor (6-4) remaining:
v OU, @ 17 TCU, v WVU, @ 9 KU, @ 12 ksu, v 5 UT, @ OSU, v 11 ISU
OSU (5-5) remaining:
v TTU, @ 11 ISU, v 9 KU, @ 17 TCU, @ WVU, v 12 ksu, v 14 BU, @TTU
WVU (3-7) remaining:
v 11 ISU, @ 5 UT, @ 14 BU, v TTU, v OSU, @ 9 KU, @ 11 ISU, v 12 ksu
Observations:
- KSU doesn't face a ranked opponent on the road
- OSU only has 1 ranked opponent on the road (us, who they beat at home)
- Despite their record, KU will probably be favored in every game except UT (maybe TCU?)
- If it comes down to the final game to decide the champ, we'll have KU @ UT, ISU @ BU and KSU @ WVU
UT (8-3) remaining:
v WVU, @ TTU, v OU, v 11 ISU, @ 14 BU, @ 17 TCU, v 9 KU
ISU (7-3) remaining:
@ WVU, v OSU, v 17 TCU, @ 12 ksu, @ 5 UT, v OU, v WVU, @ 14 BU
KU (7-4) remaining:
@ OU, @ OSU, v 14 BU, @ 17 TCU, v WVU, v TTU, @ 5 UT
TCU (6-4) remaining:
@ 12 ksu, v 14 BU, @ 11 ISU, v OSU, v 9 KU, @ TTU, v 5 UT, @ OU
K-State (6-4) remaining:
v 17 TCU, @ TTU, @ OU, v 11 ISU, v 14 BU, @ OSU, v OU, @ WVU
Baylor (6-4) remaining:
v OU, @ 17 TCU, v WVU, @ 9 KU, @ 12 ksu, v 5 UT, @ OSU, v 11 ISU
OSU (5-5) remaining:
v TTU, @ 11 ISU, v 9 KU, @ 17 TCU, @ WVU, v 12 ksu, v 14 BU, @TTU
WVU (3-7) remaining:
v 11 ISU, @ 5 UT, @ 14 BU, v TTU, v OSU, @ 9 KU, @ 11 ISU, v 12 ksu
FWIW...
T1) Kansas: 7-1 (National Champion, National Title Game, F4, E8, S16)
T1) Baylor: 7-1 (National Champion, National Title Game, F4, E8, S16)
3) Texas Tech: 3-2 (S16)
4) Iowa State: 2-1 (S16)
5) Texas: 1-2
6) TCU: 1-1
7) Oklahoma State: 1-1
8) West Virginia: 1-1
9) Oklahoma: 1-1
For sure, calling the actual Conference of Champions overrated is a pretty dumb take.
Crazy thing is if it's 3 tournaments then tech would be 8-3 with national title game.
Sounds like it's time for that 4th team on the list to have its shot.
Trying my hardest to take off my Cyclone glasses here.. I see the conference in 4 tiers (on a neutral court)
Elite talent and experience (In order):
BU - Elite guards; Big Jon returning makes them a F4 caliber team
UT - Elite Skill; Don't trust their coach
KU - Elite Experience and really good talent; PG away from the F4
Experienced without the high-end talent (in order)
TCU (Healthy) - Drop to the OSU tier without Lampkin and Miles Jr
ISU - Crazy balance; Consistency concerns
KSU - Two elite players; Too dependent on those two two players
WVU - High ceiling and low floor
Talented but not enough offense:
OSU - Avery Johnson is a HUGE loss
Doesn't matter:
OU - Can't win without going off from 3
Tech - Injuries and coaching concerns
Elite talent and experience (In order):
BU - Elite guards; Big Jon returning makes them a F4 caliber team
UT - Elite Skill; Don't trust their coach
KU - Elite Experience and really good talent; PG away from the F4
Experienced without the high-end talent (in order)
TCU (Healthy) - Drop to the OSU tier without Lampkin and Miles Jr
ISU - Crazy balance; Consistency concerns
KSU - Two elite players; Too dependent on those two two players
WVU - High ceiling and low floor
Talented but not enough offense:
OSU - Avery Johnson is a HUGE loss
Doesn't matter:
OU - Can't win without going off from 3
Tech - Injuries and coaching concerns
So we want us,TCU, and OU to win their next games. Would clean a few things up for us.
It's actually shocking all 19 teams that got a bid from both leagues got at least one win.
I'm sure at least a few teams were seeded to go 0-1.
B10 overrated these recent years looks worse when you add in the seeds. B12 actually looks better when you dig in to a team like TCU last year, their seed and result. They got bounced by a 1 seed in OT, probably shouldn't have been facing a one seed in second round.
Not sure, Baylor is starting to hit their stride and has all the pieces back. I am going say title goes through Wacko as much as it pains me.
TCU will struggle without MIles. It very well could come down to the game we play at Baylor.
Sounds crazy, I hope so. Odds would be against us but what a great place to be playing for the title in the last game of the season.
I refuse to read your italicized, ramblings of bull****. Seeing it before I actually start reading it has saved me countless hours of mind-wasting time.
Perhaps this explains why you italics in the 1st place...a warning to all Cyclone Fanatics that Surly is about to bestow his/her wisdom upon us and we can therefor...scrollllll... ;-)
Surly, neither here nor there, but I was at the O of D for the Florida game. The place was electric. IMHO, The Wabash Cannonball is one of the more special traditions in college athletics.
