Will Iowa State make postseason play?
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This is where I’m at. A couple players I thought preseason would make the team deep, just haven’t been good yet so the team isn’t as deep as thought. Those players are going to have to show up in conference play or this team is going to struggle come conference play and not make the tournament. Still a lot of basketball and the Texas A&M loss will be a good loss come March. Not sure the Virginia Tech will be.
Sorry, I do not understand what you are saying and how it remotely relates to my question (in which I genuinely asked - is there anything, at this point in the season, that is acceptable to criticize or worry about?). I kindly ask that you block me, as I am not aware of what I am not “addressing” for you. Thanks.
You are talking about three NBA players who were junior and seniors. Niang was one of the best players in the country and Morris shot the ball over 38% from 3. The ceiling for this squad is higher than the last two years but the floor is also lower due to the amount of frieshmen and sophomores playing pivotal roles.
Oh my gaaawd, relax. Did y'all expect this to be a cakewalk? We literally hadn't played a team with a pulse before this tournament so of course we didn't look amazing. Still a new group of guys that will continue to get better.
If you get this upset from a couple of early losses (one to #12 team in the country btw) then you need to get more hobbies.
If you get this upset from a couple of early losses (one to #12 team in the country btw) then you need to get more hobbies.
I'm certainly not going to draw conclusions based on one weekend. Good coaches make teams better, and I think we have a great coach. This team was blowing out bad teams before this tournament and had nothing on tape to work on. Now they do. Everything that went bad this weekend is fixable. My only concern at this point is Omaha's minutes/performance. I'm hopeful he'll come on in the next month.
Long season, but there is some issues and they are noticeable:
-we lack athletic bodies and it showed in all three games
-shooting has been awful(3's and FT's)
-lack of any post game
-not completely sure what we are on offense(when you lack postgame and shooters you will have this) I don't think anyone on TJ's staff is known for their offensive mind and it shows
-bench is not helping
-defense seems to have taken a step back over previous years
The Big12 is going to be brutal again this year and I don't see us in the top half
-we lack athletic bodies and it showed in all three games
-shooting has been awful(3's and FT's)
-lack of any post game
-not completely sure what we are on offense(when you lack postgame and shooters you will have this) I don't think anyone on TJ's staff is known for their offensive mind and it shows
-bench is not helping
-defense seems to have taken a step back over previous years
The Big12 is going to be brutal again this year and I don't see us in the top half
Well the #12 team down a couple starters makes it a little different. Virginia Tech got dumped on. This teams going to struggle
Good post. I am not going to predict either way now, still missing Ward. But at this point 2 years ago I was predicting a 20+ win season and a good seed in the tourney. I know.....TJ's first year....but you could sense between Hunter/Gabe/Brockington that team had "it". They went through their tough times like most.....but it was there....the chemistry.
This season I just can't sense there is that chemistry. So I'm not going to predict either way, but yeah....it seems a lot of what bothered them the end of last year is happening again.
Best recruiting class and one of the best transfer classes in iowa state history. Returning an elite point guard who added a 3pt shot in the offseason. Idk I don’t think I’m crazy to say this is one of the most talented rosters ever on paper. Doesn’t mean it actually is or that it will translate to results but my main point is that we underachieved in Orlando big time
Can you cite the transfer class being one of the best ever?
Do you think that ISU matched up athleticly/skill wise well with the teams they played?
Yes, it was. I knew we would not continue to win by 40 or 50 but I didn't think we'd go 1-2 and almost 0-3.
This was one of my takeaways after the last 3 games - I didn't think we'd miss him, but I was wrong
Sometimes the losses are beneficial later in the year. Shows are weaknesses and what needs to be worked on.
Apparently you think I'm one of those who do nothing but criticize as well. Please, by all means block me so you don't feel the need to leave snarky replies to my relatively benign posts.
Definitely a concern. We have to get Omaha up and running and find a role for him. I think he’ll get way better he just needs to learn what it means to really compete at this level. I think that’s where he’s lacking right now but the only way to get him up to speed is to let him play through it. So it’s tough.
I was, but I've never seen just a disparity in a guy's advertised ability's and actual out put. He's contributing absolutely nothing at this point. You can see he hustles, but he's just completely lost.
This weekend's tournament was a wake-up call. For the most part, we looked bad against fair competition. I've adjusted my expectations, and my happiness, way down.
It's fair to same some teams will gel quicker than others. Each season will be unique in how quickly teams mesh.
As it stands now, not a chance. They needed a miracle to beat a below average VCU and have beaten no other decent teams while getting out played by a weakened A&M and an average VTech team.
