return of Bubu

josh4isu

Well-Known Member
Aug 10, 2010
1,184
138
63
33
Iowa
wow. just got off of work and checked on this thread. wasnt expecting as much feedback. nallen really hit in on the noggin. bubu is a quality bench player and thats something to be excited about. as for stevefrench, im just confused. you referenced bubu's one wild shot against uconn (which went in with the shot clock expiring)... bubu is far from a turnover machine and never takes bad shots. smart basketball player that plays good defense. go clones
 

klamath632

Well-Known Member
Nov 19, 2011
12,430
323
83
This. Right here. I dont get what you people see in Bubu. Nice kid, glad his name was cleared. But this team is playing pretty well right now, and throwing someone out there, who quite frankly, doesnt belong in D-1 for anything other than some garbage minutes, is not a good idea. Hope I am wrong, will be the first to admit it if I am, but he is not a Big XII caliber player...

I guess you weren't watching him against UConn and Kentucky in the tournament last year. Derp.
 

Rural

Well-Known Member
Feb 3, 2010
43,169
36,406
113
The anti Bubu crowd is closer than the sunshine Bubu crowd.
 

blutarsky

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Apr 22, 2010
878
695
93
St. Paul, MN
Everyone has to remember that Bubu was getting his minutes when ISU either had no point guard or only had one point guard (Diante Garrett). I don't see how Bubu fits into the makeup of THIS team. I agree with most that depth is never a bad thing, but Naz Long just received his first real B12 minutes against TCU. If Lucious is healthy and not in foul trouble, he's going to be in the game.
 

Rural

Well-Known Member
Feb 3, 2010
43,169
36,406
113
He still didn't play much when our point guard was 6' 8", 260 pound tank. Reasons?
 

WastedTalent

Well-Known Member
Oct 22, 2012
7,195
4,425
113
40
but Naz Long just received his first real B12 minutes against TCU. If Lucious is healthy and not in foul trouble, he's going to be in the game.

For as many people that think Bubu is gunna come in and contribute, there may be equal crowd that think Naz should instead.

But honestly what has Naz proved? He's seen very little pt in conference, and when he was in the other day to run the offense at the end of the 1st half he had a dumb turnover!!

Hope he turns into something in the future, but if Bubu is equal to what he's been in the past, i feel much more comfortable with him on there.
 

AllInForISU

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2012
4,625
4,933
113
He still didn't play much when our point guard was 6' 8", 260 pound tank. Reasons?

He was injured a lot of the season (broken hand, thumb, something like that) but when he returned he got 14 mpg. Not a ton but solid for a backup. Royce playing the point got everyone involved and created a huge mismatch (basically the same role LeBron plays at times for the Heat). Naz Long is not ready and I think he would have redshirted if Bubu didnt have his run in with the law.
 
  • Like
Reactions: swarthmoreCY

AllInForISU

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2012
4,625
4,933
113
For as many people that think Bubu is gunna come in and contribute, there may be equal crowd that think Naz should instead.

But honestly what has Naz proved? He's seen very little pt in conference, and when he was in the other day to run the offense at the end of the 1st half he had a dumb turnover!!

Hope he turns into something in the future, but if Bubu is equal to what he's been in the past, i feel much more comfortable with him on there.

At the end of the day Naz is a freshman. Only a handful of freshman that arent big recruits coming out of HS will contribute and not make dumb plays. Niang is proving to be one of those, Naz however still has a lot to learn and can learn better from the bench behind Lucious and Palo.
 

swarthmoreCY

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2008
16,374
736
83
Here nor there
He still didn't play much when our point guard was 6' 8", 260 pound tank. Reasons?
Being in street clothes with a broken wrist, being a still developing underclassman, and that tank being a freak NBA-bound mismatch best utilized with the ball in is hands are all answers anyone but Bubu haters can readily understand.

99% of the people defending Bubu are only contending that as an underclassman he was already a valuable rotation guy and that he brings things any team can use. If not for the likely rust, Bubu playing 5-15 minutes is not far-fetched or cause for concern. If Naz Long puts up the numbers in the non-con next year, is out for the majority of the Big 12 due to injury, then comes back and contributes such valuable minutes in two NCAA games, would you feel the same?

Guys that are not Big 12 players tend not to stick around, yet Fred is going to give a scholarship to someone who is willing to pay their own way just for charity? Your prejudice from Bubu being a one-time walk-on is clear.
 
Last edited:

CY88CE11

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Oct 25, 2012
5,411
5,743
113
The Des
He still didn't play much when our point guard was 6' 8", 260 pound tank. Reasons?

There's your reason. Who in college is quick enough to guard him up the court, yet big enough to keep him from driving? Nobody. It was a crazy mismatch every single game.
 

Rural

Well-Known Member
Feb 3, 2010
43,169
36,406
113
Hater, right. Good god.
I've said he contributes but you way over-estimate his value.
 

CloneIce

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2006
37,772
21,151
113
I don't think we will actually need him much this season except if we get into foul trouble, as we are playing pretty well with Clyburn at the point when KL gets a breather. But we will really need him next year, especially the 1st semester before Jones gets eligible to play.
 

CY88CE11

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Oct 25, 2012
5,411
5,743
113
The Des
I don't think we will actually need him much this season except if we get into foul trouble, as we are playing pretty well with Clyburn at the point when KL gets a breather. But we will really need him next year, especially the 1st semester before Jones gets eligible to play.

This is exactly why I'm excited to see him come back. I hate seeing Clyburn at the point. He dribbles too high to bring the ball up against point guards. Also, it takes away part of his offense. I'd much rather see a true point guard in there who can distribute the ball to people like Clyburn.
 

EvilBetty

Well-Known Member
Sep 7, 2012
1,597
1,850
113
Bubu really came on at the end of last season but the guy will be rusty so hamper your expectations for a few weeks.

i can't wait for the chants after his first turnover "BURN HIM AT THE STAKE". Lot of mixed reactions about his comeback which surprised me.

look at it this way people, if he isn't playing at a high level he will sit on the bench. if he is adding something to the team he will play. he won't be in if he isn't contributing positively to the team. those are the decisions the coach makes to earn his money. he isn't going to play out of principle or "just because".

there is absolutely zero negative in bubu coming back.

if he sucks it up and doesn't play he is still a great scout team player for the starters.

if he plays, he has obviously shown cfh he is up to the task and give a much needed break to some other players.