Rhoads' Contract
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Oregon is another. Both they and kstate had innovative coaches. That's what you need at school that nobody wants to come to.
By all means, let that be your reasoning. Keep accepting it and paying your hard-earned money to a program that will continue to accept it and continue to build a mausoleum for themselves. Only thing we need to finish it off once the south side is done is a lid on the coffin...next up, JP will want a dome over Trice.
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Because it's common for young talented teams to suck then be good they next year when they fully grasp everything.
That's not really fair. Every stat is skewed with a single game sample. I don't expect Western Ky to remain on top of the passing #'s at 559. Not to mention it was Mangino's first game calling the shots - pass.
I give it a few weeks
That being said - I also don't foresee a tremendous amount of improvement in those numbers. And only expect that points against number to plummet
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Did you miss the entire 2013 season? Our "young talent" from last year is still on the team this year. How is this year going so far? Did you see my post a little while ago? We're in the 90+ rankings.
If I'm Jamie Pollard, I probably bowl in the NEZ and give Rhoads a 10 year extension for putting butts in the seats and helping my bank account grow.
The stats aren't going to get any better. The NDSU beat down started it. Next add #20 K-State coming to town, go to Iowa then host a team that put up 71 points on you last year and then go to Okie State who held up pretty good against the defending national champ.
Buckle up, kids. It's going to be a helluva season.
If you aren't convinced that Rhoads is the right man for the job, then why are you against replacing him? I've seen this sentiment posted several times, and I don't understand it. He's either the right man for the job, or he isn't. If he isn't the right man for the job, things are only going to get worse, and you need explain how keeping the wrong person in the job is beneficial to the program.
The issue now for Rhoads is how much losing can occur before the good recruits necessary to improve the program just tune out ISU? If ISU doesn't win some games this season, I'm not sure how one convinces the better potential recruits that those consecutive opening game losses to FCS schools and consecutive 2-3 win seasons isn't indicative of a serious issue within the program.
This has the ability to go on and on but I'll answer your last couple of questions. You have every right to withdraw your support from the program if it is not serving you in some way. That should answer your JP question. You have every right to make your demands as well, I just don't think those demands will be met as a result of your doing so.
in regards to asking the question about whether Rhoads is the guy, no, I don't think because it is questioned that I automatically have my answer. Have you never questioned anything, and decided to stick to the original course of action? And further yet, had it turn out for the best, or at least pretty damn good?
And last, the baby doesn't always get the tit. Sometimes the mama has other plans and recognizes the tit isn't what the baby needs despite the insistent cries. (Perhaps a weak analogy on my part but I thought the point would come through).
I'll tell you this, though. It becomes painfully and comically apparent that in our banter, whether we be arguing over politics, religion or some ultimately meaningless differences of opinion, we rarely convince "the other guy" of the merit of our points. With that said, keep on demanding brother. Maybe it will help, I don't know.
Why are we rebuilding in years 5 and 6? Those should be the years a program is reaching new heights. Instead we are right back where we started before Rhoads was hired.
Just for reference, I looked up the records of several coaches who took over similarly bad programs and had some success to see where they were in year 6. These may not all be directly comparable to our program, but a couple of them are about as close as you can get.
Jim Grobe (Wake Forest): 11-3 ACC Champs
David Cutcliffe (Duke): 10-4 ACC Coastal Division Champs
Art Briles (Baylor): 11-2 Big 12 Champs
Bill Snyder (Kansas State): 9-3
Steve Spurrier (South Carolina): 9-5 SEC East Champs
Mark Mangino (Kansas): 12-1 Big 12 North Co-Champs
A couple of those guys are legends, a couple ended up failing to build on their success and got fired. But I guess my point is that it is possible to have real success at a place that is traditionally awful. And it isn't out of line to think it should happen by year 6.
For those who think Rhoads is going to get things turned around and get us back to a bowl game next year - how do you see things playing out over the next 23 games? What is the basis for your belief that Rhoads will be able to fix the program?
Probably a decent comparison. K-State was able to build when we had divisional play. Plus the state of Kansas has one of the strongest JUCO systems from which Snyder pulls. I think there are something like 6 JUCOs in Kansas. We have two.
And, given all the success that Snyder built, the fanbase got antsy after two 4-7, 5-6 seasons and basically forced him to retire. They found out the grass isn't greener and brought him back.
