La Tech Transfer Xavian Stapleton on Campus

[CyArob]

I trust Steve

It's just not the same

 

[Cydwinder]

It's just not the same

Let me Prohm Coach?

 

[TheJackWePack5]

I'm not too impressed with what I've seen just looking at his recruiting rankings, offers, stats at La Tech, etc.

I'm hoping this isn't the kind of recruit Prohm thinks you go after at a Big 12 program like Iowa State. Now, I admit I could be completely wrong on this kid because I don't know the story behind him at all. He just seems like a La Tech level player to me, and not a Big 12 level player, that's all.

Yeah that Kane guy who came from that low level Marshall school didn't pan out either.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Yeah that Kane guy who came from that low level Marshall school didn't pan out either.

Wait, what do you mean? I think you could be on to something.

 

[CyArob]

I thought BDJ was the next Kane

 

[CRcyclone6]

If Coach wants him, get him. I'm sure a lot of us weren't sure about Cato, Willoughby, Pratt, and Bankhead either when Floyd had to get things going following his first year. Cato only averaged 6.0 ppg and 5.8 boards at South Alabama and Dedric only 9.0 ppg, 2.1 boards, had only 20 asst as a Soph at U. New Orleans.

 

[bozclone]

Videos show a very athletic 6'6" freshman wing player. Could develop into a major contributor after sitting a year.

 

[ripvdub]

Has some real nice dunks. Would love to see what a redshirt year would do for him.

 

[cyclones500]

That's fine with me, but I will need to see more than just dunks. Dunking doesn't impress me a whole lot... nearly every college basketball player can dunk.

A player needs to have more than dunking ability, yes, but ... these are some sweet transition dunks:

vs. UTEP

vs. MTSU

vs. Marshall

vs. FIU

Now, if only Speedy Smith were a couple years younger and wanted to transfer from LT, too ... ooh wee.

 

[bringmagicback]

Why? College basketball is a guard dominated game. We will be fine.

signed Kentucky, duke, Wisconsin ect ect. It takes both.

 

[4theCYcle]

i love Fred and i would take him and his lack of interest in recruiting back tomorrow. But he screwed over prohm and tj by not quitting in March. It would have been so easy with the surgery. The new coach whoever it was was never going to have a chance.

I wouldn't say Fred screwed Prohm over, I would say the Bulls front office likely did. The fact that they were toying with Thibs on trying to generate a trade deal lengthened the process out longer than it needed to be. That's on the Bulls, not Fred.

 

[TheHelgo]

Probably a stupid question, but does anyone know how the visit is going? Typically, some of the current players tweet things out - I wonder if CSP put a stop to that? Seems very quiet. If it wasn't for Rothstein, I wonder if we would even be aware of the visit taking place currently.

 

[jsb]

I wouldn't say Fred screwed Prohm over, I would say the Bulls front office likely did. The fact that they were toying with Thibs on trying to generate a trade deal lengthened the process out longer than it needed to be. That's on the Bulls, not Fred.

true. But I think everyone knows that they were going to fire thibs. And hire Fred.

Fred knew he was gone, told recruits that, and was apparently upfront with his players. Quitting at the time of the surgery would have helped whoever replaced him. And would have helped Iowa state. I wish he would have done that.

 

[CyTwins]

Probably a stupid question, but does anyone know how the visit is going? Typically, some of the current players tweet things out - I wonder if CSP put a stop to that? Seems very quiet. If it wasn't for Rothstein, I wonder if we would even be aware of the visit taking place currently.

Weird thing is Rothstein broke the news and not CW or Hines. Hines was quick to confirm it and say he was on campus but when Fred was here local guys always seemed to get first dibs on leaking it

 

[acgclone]

true. But I think everyone knows that they were going to fire thibs. And hire Fred.

Fred knew he was gone, told recruits that, and was apparently upfront with his players. Quitting at the time of the surgery would have helped whoever replaced him. And would have helped Iowa state. I wish he would have done that.

There was no good way to leave for Fred. It's unreasonable to quit your job for an offer that may or may not come. It is what it is. It sucks and it definitely hurt recruiting, but it was inevitable at some point.

 

[TheHelgo]

Weird thing is Rothstein broke the news and not CW or Hines. Hines was quick to confirm it and say he was on campus but when Fred was here local guys always seemed to get first dibs on leaking it

Maybe CSP tries to conduct things more privately with regards to visits. Didn't Rothstein cite Xavian's mom as the source of his information?

I wonder if he will follow the 'Seal the deal' breakfast tradition the Fred used so well...

 

[jsb]

There was no good way to leave for Fred. It's unreasonable to quit your job for an offer that may or may not come. It is what it is. It sucks and it definitely hurt recruiting, but it was inevitable at some point.

I think most people agree with you. But I don't. From what we know now, there was never any doubt that he was going to leave. If for some odd reason the job didn't open up, it isn't like taking a year off would be devastating to a guy who had major surgery and whose heart obviously wasn't in the job he had.

Its not not really an issue at this point but if we are going to ***** about prohms recruiting then we need to acknowledge whose fault it is that prohm lost over 2 months of time recruiting. And that's Fred.

 

[Thomasrickj]

There was no good way to leave for Fred. It's unreasonable to quit your job for an offer that may or may not come. It is what it is. It sucks and it definitely hurt recruiting, but it was inevitable at some point.

Agree. I've had two occasions where it looked 99% certain I was going to get a job offer and it didn't happen. Had I quit my job when it seemed like a surefire thing yet didn't have the actual offer in writing, I would've been unemployed. It's common sense not to quit your job unless the offer you're going to take is actually in writing and placed in front of you.

 

[Spam]

I'm not too impressed with what I've seen just looking at his recruiting rankings, offers, stats at La Tech, etc.

I'm hoping this isn't the kind of recruit Prohm thinks you go after at a Big 12 program like Iowa State. Now, I admit I could be completely wrong on this kid because I don't know the story behind him at all. He just seems like a La Tech level player to me, and not a Big 12 level player, that's all.

You probably thought Deandre Kane "just seemed like a Marshall level player" too, didn't you?

Possibly... I can't really remember what I thought about Kane at the time of his recruitment. Although, didn't he put up some gaudy numbers at Marshall?

As I stated, I don't know much about this kid, other than his offers and stats, etc.... so I hope he is some kind of diamond in the rough rising star that I don't know about.

I'm in no way saying he won't be a good get.... he could very well be. I'm just saying that on paper this isn't the level of player we should be recruiting IMO.

You don't remember what you thought about Kane at the time of his recruitment? Let me remind you.

Who's to say what Bubu or Naz Long could do against crappy competition night after night? That's all I'm saying. Maybe Kane is an upgrade, but maybe he isn't. What if he's not as good a teammate as Bubu or Naz Long are?

The thing is, none of us know if we are just adding Kane, or if we are going to be losing someone else. What if SDW isn't coming back for instance? He's never even played in a game that counted yet, but I'd MUCH rather have him over Kane if those are my choices.

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

No. Can you read? All I said is that dunking has NOTHING to do with someone being a good basketball player.

But go ahead and read into it what you want to. Most people do. Unreal.

http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171967&page=10

 

[Thomasrickj]

I think most people agree with you. But I don't. From what we know now, there was never any doubt that he was going to leave. If for some odd reason the job didn't open up, it isn't like taking a year off would be devastating to a guy who had major surgery and whose heart obviously wasn't in the job he had.

Its not not really an issue at this point but if we are going to ***** about prohms recruiting then we need to acknowledge whose fault it is that prohm lost over 2 months of time recruiting. And that's Fred.

You seriously sound like you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I'm guessing you are a college student or don't know what it's like with job offers out in the real world. It's the beginning of Prohm's second month on the job so cool your jets. You and other's need to cool your jets and believe in him. Prohm isn't horrible and will make a splash within the next month or two by signing a good recruit that will make an impact.