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AltHawk

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Is this for real?

How many other 7'1", 260 pound big men are there in college basketball? Woodbury's value lies in the fact that he is tall and relatively strong. Is there something you would like to disagree with?
 

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How many other 7'1", 260 pound big men are there in college basketball? Woodbury's value lies in the fact that he is tall and relatively strong. Is there something you would like to disagree with?

He has no skill or value what so ever. Anything you would like to disagree with? Being tall doesnt make you a good basketball player. You dumb.
 

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Stylistically Basabe and McKay were very similar (garbage men relying on length/athleticism). They also have nearly identical stats. Even Basabe's freshman year is very similar to McKay this year, and Basabe played about 25 minutes per game that year (not far off McKay's minutes from last year).

The Uthoff to Burton comparison is garbage because they are not similar players and Burton has never played significant minutes.

You were comparing Basabe his senior year who was averaging half as many pts, rebounds and minutes as McKay but that's a great comparison. I compare Burton who averages half as many minutes, rebounds and pts as Uthoff but that's garbage?
 

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What do last season's accomplishments have to do with this season? McKay has regressed significantly on the defensive end this year. Even then, the only reason McKay won it last year is because he blocked a lot of shots. He has never been a great individual defender.[/QUOTE

Yeah you are right Nerlens Noel was an awful defender all the dude did was blocked shots! That Mutombo character too was poor on D all he did was defend the rim and block shots.

Except McKay isn't blocking shots at a prolific rate anymore. If Mutombo or Noel stopped blocking shots, they would lose a lot of their value too.
 

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Remember when they thought white was comparable to Niang? Good times. I'm glad they found another one to blindly stand behind. Will be fun to continually bring this up as Georges continues to outperform Uthoff as he has this season and the last 4 they've been in college at the same time.
 

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You were comparing Basabe his senior year who was averaging half as many pts, rebounds and minutes as McKay but that's a great comparison. I compare Burton who averages half as many minutes, rebounds and pts as Uthoff but that's garbage?

You're right, I should have compared McKay to freshman year Basabe. The stats are still nearly identical.

In all reality, it doesn't matter what year of Basabe I am comparing him to. Both players are similar stylistically, and both players put up similar numbers when playing major minutes. The eye test would tell you the players were similar, and the statistics back that up.

Uthoff and Burton is a terrible comparison because they are not similar stylistically and Burton has never played significant minutes.

This really isn't that hard to figure out.
 

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Woodbury's value lies in the fact that he is tall and relatively strong.?

Wrong. Woodbury's value is as a punch-line.

Or as Lurch on a WGN reboot of the Addams Family.
 
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There's no comparison between Niang's supporting cast and Uthoff's. Jok = Thomas and that's about it. Advantage ISU across the board. Saying Niang is better than Uthoff is like saying Emmitt Smith was better than Barry Sanders.


He was, how many times did Emmitt Smith have 0 yards in a playoff game? Sounds about like Uthoff's ability to disappear
 

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He has no skill or value what so ever. Anything you would like to disagree with? Being tall doesnt make you a good basketball player. You dumb.

With an answer like that you are either trolling or know literally nothing about the sport of basketball. I'm not going to take the time to discuss with anyone demonstrating either of those characteristics. Have a good day, sir/madam.
 

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The intangibles of Niang make this a no brainer. Niang >>> Uthoff
 

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You're right, I should have compared McKay to freshman year Basabe. The stats are still nearly identical.

In all reality, it doesn't matter what year of Basabe I am comparing him to. Both players are similar stylistically, and both players put up similar numbers when playing major minutes. The eye test would tell you the players were similar, and the statistics back that up.

Uthoff and Burton is a terrible comparison because they are not similar stylistically and Burton has never played significant minutes.

This really isn't that hard to figure out.

So now freshman year Basabe was similar to junior year McKay he's just two inches shorter and not near as athletic. That is the best comparison you could come up with. Lol cmon man
 

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What I learned from a thread full of loser Hawkeye fans???

100% of them have completely changed their mind that thug transfers are worse than 4 year players. Don't think I've ever seen such a 180.
 

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Stylistically Basabe and McKay were very similar (garbage men relying on length/athleticism). They also have nearly identical stats. Even Basabe's freshman year is very similar to McKay this year, and Basabe played about 25 minutes per game that year (not far off McKay's minutes from last year).

The Uthoff to Burton comparison is garbage because they are not similar players and Burton has never played significant minutes.

What do you mean EVEN Basabes freshman year? That was his only good year. He looked explosive and was full of potential, though putting up stats on bad teams can be deceiving. So I would agree that as a FR he looked poised to be a McKay type player and potentially much more, it just didn't happen. I tend to think he benefitted as a FR from playing on a bad team with no expectations or meaningful games. He essentially topped out as a space eater with a few decent games as a SR when the team was decent and the games mattered. Does McKay benefit in terms of FG% playing with the likes of Morris and Niang? Certainly, but his touches are very limited with their presence too. Comparing Basabe and McKay in a serious manner is idiotic.
 

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Uthoff had 18 points in the 2nd half tonight vs Rutgers

Uthoff's problem vs ISU mainly was the inability of Iowa's PGs to run a cohesive offense and get him the ball. He's likely more skilled offensively than Niang and has better shot blocking ability due to his length. Two completely different players though, so I'm not sure why we're trying to compare the two. I honestly don't think Niang is ISU's most valuable player this season anyways.

Ummm what???
 

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Notice how cocky all 6 iowa basketball fans have become lately? Don't worry guys, February is your month to crash and burn. We all know its coming, so enjoy your 15 minutes in the spotlight while you can.
 

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What do you mean EVEN Basabes freshman year? That was his only good year. He looked explosive and was full of potential, though putting up stats on bad teams can be deceiving. So I would agree that as a FR he looked poised to be a McKay type player and potentially much more, it just didn't happen. I tend to think he benefitted as a FR from playing on a bad team with no expectations or meaningful games. He essentially topped out as a space eater with a few decent games as a SR when the team was decent and the games mattered. Does McKay benefit in terms of FG% playing with the likes of Morris and Niang? Certainly, but his touches are very limited with their presence too. Comparing Basabe and McKay in a serious manner is idiotic.

You tell 'em, MTC. IDIOTS indeed!
 

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I like reading the analysis on here of the head to head game. Niang had 16 points in that game, Uthoff had 32. But since Niang got most of his points in the 2nd half, its better. I will take a 32 point "disappearing act" over a "clutch" 16 points any day.

And I'll take the win any day and twice on Sunday
 

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How many other 7'1", 260 pound big men are there in college basketball? Woodbury's value lies in the fact that he is tall and relatively strong. Is there something you would like to disagree with?

I won't disagree that he's tall but do you honestly think he's a good bball player? Have you ever watched an NBA game? Imagining Woodbury out there is laughable. Teams would love having him out there no offensive threat and would get blown by and dunked on constantly
 
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